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Another use for H2 fuel cell. Concept to design to trial ... hopefully next stop is adoption. H2 being used to save life.
I've heard slow and don't let it empty, so overnight 3-7kw charging is best. You might also find that early models were worse and that the software that manages the charge rate vs fullness vs temp vs other characteristics is improving. Leaf's in particular don't have great cooling do they? and struggle to charge after a good run.
I’ve heard that slow charging is better and let the battery get low before you charge. Not always easy if you are not sure where you will find the next charger and if it will be vacant. Range phobia is bad with batteries. Same with hydrogen at the moment. Once ITM publish where their new filling pumps are springing up it will change the hydrogen market completely.
Seems that how it is charged is important, there are tales of Taxi fleets (Portsmouth/Plymouth?) that are still holding good charge after many years of abuse, and Tesla's with 95% after several years, not sure what rules should be followed though.
Another thought, battery efficiency begins to decline with each charge. I have a friend with a Nissan leaf that’s a few years old and now only gets 40 miles on a full charge....on a good day. I’m looking at hydrogen cell longevity at the moment. See what I can discover.
Hi yayay. It’s difficult to say. I’ve googled the insides out of it. Unless batteries absolutely leap forwards, then for me the range and refill speed of hydrogen win hands down. Lithium ion is maxed out at the moment. Lithium won’t last forever. Hydrogen is extremely abundant. As long as it’s generated from renewables or nuclear then it’s a winner.
YY , yep the video recorder thing has come up many times , the difference in my mind being that a wrong choice there matters very little in the scheme of things. This is massively different , common sense will win out. We may end up with both HFC and battery cars , horses for courses. That said logic would suggest H2 to be the best route , certainly for longer journeys and for anything bigger than a sewing machine on wheels. Of course batteries will have a chance to evolve too. As regards infrastructure , for sure that is the key. Comparing battery and H2 I would argue that H2 is actually in a better position. We already possess a great deal of the infrastructure needed , called garages. They just await new pumps and equipment. On the battery side there are a few charging points scattered about but ultimately the size of the challenge here is immense once you start discussing the required scale ie. millions/tens of millions. Let’s not get on to grid issues, raw materials , discarded battery mountains and battery degradation. As regards ITM , yes , incredibly exciting to be invested here and remember the transport area is only one of our giant pies. GLA
I'm new here, and I'm sure many of you have made the point before, but could we be on course in the next 20 years or so for a VHS/Betamax scenario, but on a much more expensive scale?
You are right Belles ... infrastructure is the key ... get H2 refilling sorted and watch H2 fly then. It’s a no-brainer. Keep buying on the dips and enjoy the ride!
If battery and hydrogen evolve at the pace they seem to be, then within 20 years you will not be able to give oil away. It’s the lack of charging points and hydrogen infrastructure that’s preventing the rise of these vehicles. It’s changing rapidly and we are in at the right time.
Yes tinlode, I’ve noticed too that Brent Crude was down 0.3% yesterday and 9.5% off on 12months ago and that’s despite global geo-political factors.
Perhaps they should also be growing vegetables in the parks, just like we used to do during WW2.
I've also noticed a general reduction in oil share prices, not everyone of course. Hopefully they are investing in hydrogen focused companies, the ultimate answer helped by easier and cheaper electric generation (pure electric is not posible to deliver for heavy duty & long distance trucks and marine) . I've certainly moved a lot of money, getin now, we don't know how far they will go.
Learn about hydrogen, it's a lot safer than liquid fuels (read the latest technical reports on the Hindenburg) pooling around your feet, just hope the fools smoking when they fill their up their cars will learn - quickly!
I agree I'm spending time with Leeds council workers whose whole jobs have been upturned completely since March 2019. The declaration of a Climate Change Emergency means that staff who used to layout flat lawns of grass all over the city are now planting thousands of trees all over the city. It is clear to see that the adults are coming to the party.
Concepts often fall by the wayside but all part of the evolution of everything new. The current climate change debate though is focussing the minds of most government (still a few who claim its ‘fake news’) and along with projects like this and marine and rail initiatives under test, we’re definitely moving from concept to real.
Nice read, I'm looking forward to stop reading about concept vehicles, but about actual production vehicles. Real vehicles cost real money, concepts need just need a stylist. That is why the Toyota truck is so worthwhile, lots of testing in a large dock in CA and now real units needing real H2.
https://www.trucks.com/2019/11/12/hyundai-nikola-toyota-build-hydrogen-highway/
A great read and shows more great momentum in H2 developments within commercial transport globally.