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Exactly SteveV. Some are going to be more positive and others more negative in their outlook just by their nature alone. This shouldn’t automatically point to a nefarious agenda from either side. Even the most positive on this share will undoubtedly have concerns to varying degrees as things progress. For me the though the key word is progress. This however will never always be in a straight line up. Would it be fair to suggest then that a line is drawn and we turn this BB back into its once very tolerant, friendly and informative board it once was. Lets tolerate those who don’t always perceive things as we do individually and accept this. Just a thought
Any way…xop currently up 10.4% @ 0.26
That's how Many see him Tree. Too long winded and patronising.I lose interest after the opening salvo.
Well said Treefern. I wish all posters would entertain differing views in a polite way. Keep the posts brief. Don't indulge in Tit for Tatting exchanges. Do not get personal.
Most are here to (try to)make money. I personally want to hear both side of the debate and decide if my investment choice is sound.
That appears to me a fair opinion.
I would edit the word hate, replacing it with the descriptor 'disdain', if that was at all possible.
It was excessive reference to your posts.
Another day closer to news and a steady finish.
Anything happen? WTI shot up 6%
Blue blue blue
Not long now
Remember remember the 5th
Don’t listen to the scrum bags,
For you that coplfiddler x
Come on Gold / DJ let's get it all out in the open... We are all still waiting.
I believe a number of regular posters on this bb are guilty of aiding and abetting the resident derampers.
CH - Contrary to what you believe I don’t hate you. I hate the way you post. Which is usually far too flowery to the point the reader loses not only interest but actual understand of what you are talking about. Added to that they are condescending. That last post however was to the point. It showed concerns and backed up researched, reasons why you are concerned. I think you would have been far better received and vowed with far more credibility had you started with that style of post to begin with. IMO
I oppose the interpretation I labeled an RBL as' bad debt' . That has very specific meaning. I didn't say that.
Clarification: more debt, which is a good thing for long term prospects, doesn't necessarily have a short term positive impact on the SP.
That major positive impact is what many expect. Is it another golden ticket ticket to SP rockets. Especially on twitter it is, 'buy this for this and get rich quick'. The traders propogate that view especially more than any view I have. More traders use extreme positivity.
As per the webinar, they are still talking all sorts of lenders. I would suspect, unknowingly, a sphere of influence, beyond the amount borrowed ,will be what the money is permitted to be spent , or not.
The days of free spending on whatever a company wants are long gone. That will also dictate the interest rate. That's not an assumption.
I think I poster that same link and got accused of being a stupid googler by the by.
Maths are that they borrow additional money at possibly a lower interest rate but pay more cash interest, that DOES change how some metrics of valuations on mcaps are assigned.
They will have the entire new sum repayable on the books, but let's say 20m in the bank. They'll need to sweat that 20m to improve above the burden of the debt.
Isnt that the very basics? I don't think that is a controversial view at all.
88e are unique and the biggest waste of space as a comparable around. I don't know for howmlont and how often that needs to be proved?
None have called sentiment right here. If it were a qualification some would be disbarred from predictions of sentiment a long time ago.
'Potential' is interesting and it's going to take a swing in production increases to get that up off the floor.
The fledgling boxer who has been counted out three fights in a row has potential, but has to win a fight or two first to show it.
The point you make about 10kbopd or 11kbopd was mostly around that the view that 'that high pressure was great news and more important than maintaining better production .
Some posters didn't understand the compensatory positive that the CEO was making, from a negative outcome in October- January.
It's not a celebratory outcome. It hasn't improved anything. It has reduced projected output, that was made to prove the point.
No negs or pos was attached to the view. It was all an argument in interpretation and their spinning.
Which therein lays stupidity.
If the porosity was bad COPL wouldn't be there in Wyoming to begin with. The miscible flood would not be planned. The porosity is already a known
What then happened the abuse began. Same as the drill dates.
The summation is that positive lies are better than truth.
I think actually that is just diverting arguments to places, adding a little spice, to places where you think easy points are there to be scored. You are what I think is Uber positive but you don't usually do that.
as we say up here, Oi garz a boight!
Honoured to be questions by on of TFHofA! If you recall it is i that was asking the question and not the other way around. You tell me which one is likely to double my investment in the next 12 months. What's BP at the moment 387p and COPL are what, 16.3p It's a real poser ain't it!
I suppose there's always the holding cash option. Famine... I hope you don't mind me calling you by that moniker (I think it suits you! - you wouldn't like Death, he's always so dark and quite frankly BORING! No Famine suits you much better) Where were we, oh yes, cash. So I hold cash and want to buy a loaf of bread in say a years time. Where do you see the price of decent bread going? Up or down? If you have to do a regular shop like I have to I can tell you that bread is heading North at a rapid rate of knots! If only it were confined to bread. Sadly everything is going up and it won't be long before rationing kicks in, Ha! Just like the good old days. At least we can blame it on old Vlad and that it is nothing at all to do with any of our economic policies. Good old Vlad!
So back to my three options for doubling my money. Put your hands up if you want to answer. Don't just blurt it out!
We are BLUE.
And Canada too
You mean you're looking to buy back in Hawk.Seen you on loads of shares ,just another trader trying to disguise it.
Just trade and be transparent,but then you'd make zip if you didn't ramp and deramp :)))))
Once again please provide evidence of what you posted yesterday and the other night when you were called out for lieing.
Or are you on last chance saloon LB28 before you are banned.
We all await........
The past 12 months trading is irrelevant now - only a trader would focus on it.
What is relevant is the company mcap in 12-18 months time once Frontier is in substantial production and BFU running at its capacity .
The oil is there, COPL have a technical solution and approach developed to best extract it. They need the RBL funds to do so, which could be confirmed within two weeks.
Slim pickings in due course for the negs - "Its only 10000 bopd achieved instead of the 11000 bopd COPL maintained by this date....."
Goodafternoon my lovelies,
Pretty quiet here today and with the volume too I see. Still at least Boris is having some excitement in his life right now, Ha!
Back to COPL. Way I see it is either The Four Horsemen (otAp.) and their demonic sycophants (I suppose it's better than elephants) are right and the rest of us are all wrong OR they are wrong. I will soon have a little money coming my way which can only be used for pension purposes. I would like to double my money. Do I
a. Invest it in BP? Are they likely to double in the next 12 months?
b. Invest it in COPL? Is COPL likely to double it's sp in 12 months?
c. Just keep it as cash in a SIPP? If we go the way of Tuuurkiye or whatever they insist on calling it now and see inflation running at 80% what do you think of my chances of doubling my money are?
I think we ALL know the answer to these questions but I'd like to hear it from one of The Four Horsemen, see what they think. Also if they can say why they are here and not haunting the paradise that is 88E! I don't care which one of them answers, War, Famine, Pestilence or Death. I think we all know which of them is Death, Ha!
Do well, bor do well!
Art (no not that one, my figure is much better than his! and my balance is much better too, You won't see me falling off chairs, Ha!)
"The point is if so many expect 30p plus, with some in the 50p range just on CUDA closing, without additional news ,then why no excitement now."
Normally - yes, agreed, look at 88E
But the market for COPL does not value prospects or what could or should be -
I say again, mcap value will only start to come once those four aspects are 100% confirmed and not before. Its is what it is, doesn't change the fact that the prospects are excellent.
"RBL is a false flag, particularly as taking more debt with be counterproductive to a sp until revenue is up."
Im very surprised you think that RBL is bad debt - it shows a lesser understanding than I though you had - but then refer to my last post.....
RBL is the absolute standard means of field development for Majors and solvent producers - this facility isnt going to get offered to 88e as they have no reserves or production - COPL will secure an RBL with a revolver on good terms as expected as they have reserves secured to leverage.
Its absolutely 100% required for field development so isnt a false flag but the single most important news to come - should be acknowledged as such by the market, the current debt would then be managed - it enable everything to come.
Wells come on line and their revenue pays the RBL in off season and so on.
Anyone feeling a wee down in the dumps, just think of the imminent news that is coming our way.
Also, we are a producer, and compare it to all the other dog shares we are/have been involved in that have no income, no plan going forward and SP drifting.
All should be revealed soon.
I don't mind your attacks Spotify
But I am sorry, when asked I have answered, I do insist, haven't demanded I'm invested.
In fact old friend I made a ' am I or am I not' joke earlier today. That Spotify was to perpetuate that precise idea of unknowing.
Here is a clue, plenty neighter reply nor engage. You can reach total silence but it will mean you will have to let go of the game of domination of conversation, and forthwith ignore cuplifter
It's a shrinks paradise in here mate.
'Sometimes difficult to tell the difference between PI with real concerns, but perhaps not a full understanding of every aspect and those who know the real situation but highlight these concerns in any case for a trading position or other motive'.
You are right Tiburn.
However, in the case of CuckPlodder, we know exactly what his game is.
Thankfully, he is p!ss poor at it and constantly found wanting.
In addition he is NOT invested, though insists constantly that he is, which renders everything he posts as meaningless twaddle.
The point is if so many expect 30p plus, with some in the 50p range just on CUDA closing, without additional news ,then why no excitment now.
It's normal to have buzz on ground breaking news approaching. If this wasn't full of vested interest it would have pages and pages of discussion on it.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder and where the hell is she cos the longer she is gone the weirder it is.
If you want to make a point , that then to be asserted as a forever truth , unchallengeable then detached from the share price movement?
That is not me. To paraphrase the view ' I have addressed that with my list of future targets so will address your.position' , is just reductive.
I think that's from subconscious fears.
Emotional anger and lashing out seen by others.
Having knowledge questioned is good because it is worth absolutely nothing on here. Zilch. An ego is not your investment friend.
The 'knowledgeable know'. all that gumph is repeated on lots of boards some are 99% underwater. Again it shows emotions are high.
This board is very very defensive, it doesn't have a particular strong sense of humour and is angry as heck.
It needs a psychologist or 40p asap.
If you want to talk about repetition then I'm bottom of that queue too. Hearing' cuda in days' , for months repetitively on the board, that is how agenda is set, how ramps work, as mantras.
I am not that, I have waffling elongated responses to specific talking points beyond acceptable levels. Trust me, I have been informed of this.
One had the guestimate when approaching cuda the sp move would be stuck at 20p ish and rise to 25p as cuda got closer , 'blah blah pick a card' ....something like that.
It was based on reserves, production and debt
a back of fag packet calc. I've changed that view, because the evidence has slapped me a chair.
I won't assume the concept is the the SP could drop to anything and it wouldn't matter.
The answer isn't there is 'list of things we know little granular detail of yet to happen '
It's been posted that oil prices won't drop below 100 for a decade. Yet there is was for example.
So, as stated many times, my entire position is for the delineation drills and 2400 bopd, possibly come together. RBL is a false flag, particularly as taking more debt with be counterproductive to a sp until revenue is up.
Stating my simple delineation point in April brought vile obscene abuse, language that would make their mothers blush!
We shall never know who holds or not shall we, but let's be clear, sphere of influence is sided by popularity and that chum ain't me.
Is that page 7 or 8 ? Quick 'Carriage return' before more comes.
Its 15.7p because the MM are taking it lower due to:
- nervous PI selling as no news for a while
- others sell due to this momentum
LTH here with in depth COPL understanding are already mainly positioned, bar a few tops ups at this gift SP
- No volume of buying as has been the case for weeks, as all wait on 100% confirmed:
Frontier drilled and in production.
But we know this - so why ask the same question in a different way?
This low SP has no bearing on what it will be with all the above in place, there is no correlation - its just timing when £1+ will occur.
Sometimes difficult to tell the difference between PI with real concerns, but perhaps not a full understanding of every aspect and those who know the real situation but highlight these concerns in any case for a trading position or other motive.
There seems to be selective memory retention for the later - many points have been discussed at length and common conclusions established, but this board general understanding does not seem to be retained.
Perhaps the later can flag when they are position posting and when they wish their points to be considered seriously? :)
Apparently it's the MM's holding this back, we all know it's not supply vs demand.