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Irene could get paid for decreasing the share price and you for ramping it up. On a more positive note as I’ve stated I hold both shares but imo CERP shareholders are giving up more than BPC shareholders. I am in my late 50s been trading for 30 years seen mergers, company buyouts etc but for some reason I get a really good feeling about this merger. I think it’s because of the trust I have in L. Koot and the board at CERP not so much the BPC board.
I don’t blame Irene K for trying to decrease the share price, that’s if it’s true, which I doubt. The ppl that listen to or pay attention to negativity around a share is their own stupidity. We all have an opinion and a choice. In my opinion Irene K is doing a good job of getting ppls attention, and why, because your making comments Novice and I am discussing it with you. I don’t agree with Irene K but she deserves a pat on the back for doing a wonderful job at getting ppls attention.
Irene krapp krapp you are back with your deramping again? I thought the shorters stopped your salary a week ago when they realised that you can’t deramp a share that is going to be successful with large movements? Then makes you look cra* at your job. Just for the record, I did not get that information from another bb board. This person has over 20 years experience in the industry, not just m and a, but the broader stock market and banking in general. My point is she has a lot of experience and I can assure you there is no bias in this bit of advice. 100%
The problem is Noviceinv that LTHs in BPC have had to listen to the BOD saying we are drilling this year / shortly but every yuear and we have had to spend more money just to keep up and balance the portfolio. This happens with a lot of companies. I'm not deramping, I'm saying exactly what has happened over the last 10 years.
I had an hour long conversation last night with an expert on the aim market because I was getting a bit peed off with the negative comments on here. So managed to speak with an expert on it. Couple of the main points that I got from the chat:
1.) pension funds like what has been mentioned have to show a broad risk based investment strategy and not just keep to the ftse 250/100. It’s too easy and they would just be making a mere 7/8 % a year if they are lucky. Aim market albeit more risky could demonstrate a 10/11% but more likely much higher rate of return. That being said, they still have to do their to do their due diligence on companies to make sure what they are investing in has a good rated risk portfolio. This filled me some good reassurance on Bpc.
2.) takeover/merger - before this proceeds, it is a requirement of any company on any market to perform a stress test before the deal can be finalised. The fact the deal has been finalised and awaiting for shareholder approval fills me with excitement that the financials are ok.
3.) when a merger and takeover is announced, the share price is artificially kept at a certain level and the MM will not let it rise uncontrollably. This is a fact. I think someone touched upon it the other day but was met with some opposition. I didn’t really believe it a few days ago either but it is true. It’s there and done to ensure a fair option for shareholders and new comers etc etc. Again fills me with reassurance.
4.) after a deep dive of this takeover/merger, they told me that in their opinion, it’s a good deal (I have already voted yes anyway but it was good to get their view). Provides an income to bpc shareholders along with tangible assets, and for cerp it gives them greater investment and chance to progress their company. Nobody loses out.
5.) breaking news, rns are kept back during this period and especially during the 10 day disclosure period. They can be released after the 10 day period. Again this is to ensure transparency. They are released however if there is a risk the news can be leaked.
Apologies if the above is what you already knew. I was so pleased after my conversation last night, and it just filled me with excitement on what such a great investment I am in all in my (or their) opinion of course. I wouldn’t want to be out of this for any length of time.
Wessex: I agree with Iking. Furthermore, refer to the actual investment strategy of the Mersey Pension Fund https://mpfmembers.org.uk/pdf/iss_2020.pdf They clearly DO allocate a small percentage of investments to more risky ventures for a larger potential ROI. However they take specialist advice before doing so.
Just because the name of the company has pension fund in it doesn’t mean it is so. I don’t know but it could be they are not actually one so don’t have the normal investing restrictions. I agree that it would be very strange for them to invest in such a speculative share but I also find is strange that anybody is buying BPC as you can buy CERP at a discount.
Wessex - well the ? You should be asking yourself is why a Pension fund that has rules and regs and trustees is investing in something- unless it knows what’s happening behind the scenes - which to me is the positive indicator- always look on the bright side of life! GL IK XX
Can someone please explain why a pension fund would be investing in a AIM stock , the risk is too great and the implications could be damaging for many people. Some people mention a 2 p placement again to fund P1 but again the risk to the pension fund is too great for value to be knock off. Do we think some inside info or somebody knows something. The pension fund should be sticking to FTSE 250 at a min Or I’m I completely out of sync