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Sooz, the KU report can surely be used by Kurt to write to the PM and demand a date for conclusion of this fiasco? We are having the shirts stripped off our backs here.
Lol.
What seems odd is that the Company provided relevant information to assist UNESCO and there has been no communication from their direction about it, presumably because UNESCO believe the Government is their 'client', which has some logic to it. And maybe they didn't have any questions because the material provided was complete enough. :-)
Lb, that's a fair point. If BrainTec has received a reply from UNESCO then Kurt should have. If he hasn't then that is a disgrace, but he then needs to do something about it. As he has said, and Aug has touched on previously, this isn't a matter for UNESCO and it has no business effectively delaying a mining project that is not situated anywhere near the boundary of the WHS.
No, certainly not...you use every opportunity to take a cheap swipe at the Boss. BrainTec's reply would be of no value whatsoever to the Company, would it....It's a general statement and why wouldn't they be nearly finished after more than six months.
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Suzy2,
You may be right about Braintec. Who knows?
If Braintec is authentic, then he / she has achieved what the CEO of Beowulf has persistently failed to do, which says much, don't you think?
Problem appears to be that KB has written the UNESCO opinion off as being unnecessary. By this time I would have suggested send someone to their office to ask when the hell they plan to respond. Its not like we are asking them for state secrets, just when will they answer
BrainTec is a Swedish shareholder....he's written several times and received an acknowledgement in the early days which stated they would advise him of progress in due course. You can believe it or not, it makes no difference...I believe it, he's a reliable poster with a large investment and I believe that also...it takes one to know one. Lol.
Wotitsworth, of course the letter has been ignored.
Why Budge, Farm, Littorin persist with the embarrassing procession of feeble letters and emails, which, for years, have been ignored or swatted away, is beyond me.
Having stated publicly that Kallak is not a matter for UNESCO, surely Budge must immediately challenge their decision to conduct a technical review, whether this is UNESCO's decision or at Baylan's invitation in order to achieve further delay.
He won't though, will he. Probably just send another email - pfft!
The wishful thinking is off the scale here. As usual without evidence. Who is Braintec?
Going off previous process the most likely is baylan reviews UNESCO reply for about two months than releases and gives all parties 3 months to give opinions on UNESCO comment
IMHO
Chuteless
You may well be right lbjj. On the fence is an outcome that would be expected, but at least its then back to the minister. Eventually Baylan must be ousted for not doing his job, there are enough people within the govt that are shouting about it. But yes, timeline is of course in question.....still.
What happened to Svens questions to Baylan. Just ignored I assume?
Yes, Pocko...Personally I like the bridge over the River Elbe...the people of Dresden made the decision not UNESCO and rightly so; now they've got the bridge and the palaces and let UNESCO sling their hook. The liberty of the people another OUV.
Wotitsworth, you should be bothered.
UNESCO is a global bureaucracy with an agenda. When such an organisation chooses to make something it’s business enough to conduct a “technical review” you can be sure they have done so in order to avoid any challenge to the outcome, which is the objective of most such reviews.
The best you can hope for is a conclusion which puts UNESCO squarely on the fence.
Something along the lines of:
“ The findings of the technical review show that it would be impossible to determine what effect, direct or indirect, any proposed mine at Kallak could have on the preservation of the natural and cultural heritage and importance of Laponia “
UNESCO off the hook and back to Baylan to sit on until the election, when a new enterprise and innovation prevention minister pitches up.
Simples.
Exactly Suzy2... It could be used to broaden their scope of influence? Though that would be short sighted...
Morning All. Must say I don't have total confidence that UNESCO won't take the opportunity offered to them to make it their business and I just hope the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth are held up as an OUV.
Has anyone actually read the Chairman’s statement?
“The Company has been in communication with UNESCO regarding its review of Kallak.“
‘Communication’ suggests more than the previously unanswered emails...
And for those that bothered to watch the Proactive presentation... The final question...
Interviewer: “And finally, a Yes or No answer. Will common sense prevail in Sweden?“
Kurt Budge: “ Yes.”
Hello Eric, I had an email last Thursday from Kurt... " Still nothing from from UNESCO. Administrative / bland response from the Ministry desk officer to the Baylan letter"
I think everybody excpects the answer to be that Kallak has no affect, particularly as it isnt even the closest mine, or at least that there wa s acloser mine when the WH status was put in place. So who cares if they should or should not be doing it, just get it finished so we can move on.
The email ( if authentic ) is nonsense.
UNESCO has no business conducting a "technical review" in relation to a proposed mine at Kallak, some 20 miles outside the agreed, designated territory of Laponia.
Suzy, that was great work finding this person. I had a half a**e look at trying to find relevant UNESCO people on twitter but failed misearably so thank you for finding then sharing this. This is great.
I look Rune1 thought about confirmation back to the government before summer. Lets just hope that this is the silver bullet that Mr Baylan seeks and he doesnt in fact look for futher excuses to delay.
Sounds good Sooz. I wonder if UNESCO has now replied to Kurt. Hope so.
Great news! It would be amazing if we could get a reply from Unesco before the summer holidays and then a government Y E S later this year
If I may copy your post:
"Now it became extremely exciting!
Finally received a reply today from Stephanie Grussinger from UNESCO, who is the head of the appointed working group. They will soon be done with their work!
See mail below."
Dear ......
The World Heritage Center acknowledges with thanks receipt of your message concerning the mixed natural-cultural World Heritage site 'Laponian Area'. The World Heritage Center is fully aware of the interest of the different stakeholders in the developments related to the planned Kallak mine project.
The state of conservation of the property is being monitored closely with the relevant authorities of the Kingdom of Sweden, the World Heritage Center and the Advisory Bodies (IUCN, ICOMOS) to the World Heritage Convention in accordance with the Operational Guidelines for the Implementation of the World Heritage Convention.
In this respect, please note that the information and documentation related to the planned Kallak mine project received from the State Party is currently being reviewed by the Advisory Bodies in an in-depth assessment.The Technical Review is expected to be completed soon and will be transmitted to the Swedish authorities.
By signing the World Heritage Convention, each State Party recognizes the duty of ensuring the identification, protection, conservation, presentation and transmission to future generations of the cultural and natural heritage situated on its territory. Technical reviews serve to provide recommendations to States Parties with regard to the preservation of the Outstanding Universal Value of World Heritage properties, its cultural and natural values ??and its integrity and authenticity.
We thank you for your interest in the World Heritage Convention.
Yours sincerely,
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Stefanie Grüssinger
Junior Professional Officer
North America, Northern Europe