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I don't think there's ever been a message board that has solely stuck to conversations purely about the company/share, that's not real life.
If they put more than just the s%$te on the news then they'd be no reason for the information to find it's way out here.
It's only with the best of intentions that one would warn others of potential danger.
But hey, here's to next week.
Hey guys.
I know I started the thread and it’s been an interesting discussion (I accept not everyone wants to discuss), but Amin/Jezzac are right. May I ask that we let this drop now and focus on ADV.
All I would say is that I’m surprised it’s been so restrained - there’s been no abuse which is good to see. Also, some of the posts have led me to discover new information which I appreciate too.
Anyway, here’s to next week as it we all want to make some money eh! :-).
Here you go join ADVFN and post on there https://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=45654975
i'll be honest , getting pretty sick of the coronovirus posts. Its not the place to be posting views whatever they maybe.
I come on here to see updates for adv and instead get a load of s%$te about coronovirus. Its bad enough seeing it on the news every 2 mins without seeing posts here too.
Please people leave it out as jezz says
Jeez give it a rest ffs..
Hi musicman
I’ve just got back from a Christmas shop with the mask wearing and four year old in tow. Not a good experience. My view on all these restrictions , mask wearing, etc, was that the point of the vaccines was supposed to allow us to get back to normal. Otherwise what was the point.
As for clImate change, etc, I posted on this board a few weeks ago for the all the folk that want old and gas banned without a viable alternative. Look at what happens to the consumer price once O&G become scarce.
@Huirtle
The link to the researchgate pdf is very good. @Dai - This underlines the issue relating to statistics and how easy they can (are) manipulated to suit an agenda.
Read the paper guys - set aside some time and read it. Don’t just dismiss something because it goes against what you currently believe. Because, if the vaccines aren’t working (based on real data and not any spin/bias), then why would you continue to allow experimental vaccines to be injected into you?
We should all be allowed to make our own decisions - life is a risk after all. But forcing someone to inject something based on fear of losing their job, exclusion from society is heinous.
Quote the Scottish dude off Dads Army :- “ Were doomed I tell ya, doomed”
Doomed Doomed Doomed
Spike, they haven't dropped off a cliff, reports continued unabated.
And it doesn't include those not reported, ie not recognised as jab related cos not expected/considered. Typically as low as 10% get reported.
In UK all cause deaths have remained above average constantly with c95% non covid related (covid related = +ve PCR within 28days of death, not of covid).
In age groups under 60 with good health there are almost no OF covid deaths,.
There needs to be no risk in these groups to be considered safe.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab989/6445179
https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports
WolfofWarks
wear a mask and set yourself free? something that Stalin would have said. for most people this is a mild flu and most people dont die from this. its certainly designed to take our normal freedoms away and push people apart
added to this is all the bbc climate bashing making us crims for just living. look at the petrol price hiked up to stop us driving although we know there is no capacity to run electric cars. pure dogma
these are truely dangerous times for the human race
hope ADV does well
The problem is the science on the vaccine hasn’t been done fully yet in terms of its effectiveness, duration, etc.
What certainly can’t be denied is that it’s reduced the volume of serious illness and therefore death.
My last post on this subject
heres that 30 page report, whats missing is estimates to how many doses were given or shipped in that period
Cumulative Analysis of Post-Authorization Adverse Event Records Reports
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
“They said no and the first 30 pages have been released, shows 10s of thousands of adverse reactions and 1200 deaths within first 90 days. (USA)“
In the first three months Pfizer shipped tens of millions of vaccines which were then delivered. Adverse reports and subsequent deaths don’t necessarily relate to the vaccine, it just happens that someone has a condition post vaccine that is then report as a potential adverse event.
1200 deaths out of tens of millions of people in a few weeks, especially when the initially doses were focused on the vulnerable is likely to be well within the statistical range of expected deaths for that group, vaccinated or not.
Hence the MSM aren’t bothered as it’s a non-story.
Federal Judge rejected Pfizer’s request to keep jab info hidden for uo to 55 years in response to a FOI request. They said no and the first 30 pages have been released, shows 10s of thousands of adverse reactions and 1200 deaths within first 90 days. (USA)
Where's the MSM?
@sgf,
If your not going to vaccinate take Vit D3, a good dose...
There is a fair bit of research on it, mixed results, but if it works you will never know..
@SGF,
I think our slant on the situation depends on what we have read, watched and for some unfortunately experienced.
So not disagreeing just offering another angle, as I also find what we are told questionable too often..
Remember when 1 dose of AZ was almost as good as 2, and 1.5 was better than 2. So we need 2 and a booster(preferably another)?
Israel, probably the fastest to rollout AZ reported single dosed people were still getting infected, but days later they took that claim back, probably under pressure, who knows, but they were right..
Only today, Wales testing proves AZ and Pfizer are "best" against the SA variant... How effective is best?
I watched a short documentary which featured an expert in diseases, who caught covid, he explained after a number of weeks covid was no longer the issue, although he was still very ill. He explained he was then fighting his bodies reaction to covid.
From that I interpreted 28 days as being those who tested positive and died after that period would no longer be counted as a covid victim.
So I guess if someone initially had covid, then 4 weeks later died as a result of a blood clot or organ failure, then that cause would be recorded, not covid. Even though all are known consequences of covid.
Its not uncommon for someone with covid to be admitted to ICU at around two week, and die after another two weeks. So maybe 28 days is a nice way to reduce figures?
Lets say after 28 days we have a real fighter but its evident covid has impacted the kidneys and dialysis is required but there are more people requiring dialysis than available machines, so everyone has to wait their turn. Unfortunately the wait was too long , as a consequence a few days later the patient dies of kidney failure. Or was it covid? Debatable..almost a true story..
For the Gov to instruct that everyone who dies within 28 days of a positive test to be marked down as a covid death regardless does not do their case any good, especially when constantly ranked amongst the worst covid countries in the world, and especially after publicly pointing out that the advice of WHO is for middle and lower tier countries whilst boasting up the NHS.. But then again if everyone thinks the figures are over inflated that could be in the govs favour?
Total deaths, thats a difficult one, but its not going to be simply the annual count plus covid, so should it be much much higher?
I guess everyone working from home or staying home would have reduced road and work related deaths, but increased home related..
Pubs closed, probably reduced those through alcohol related head injuries, fighting and falling
Covid part replacing common flu, or catching up on the weak and those that would have passed away the same year..
But Its odd that the total deaths dont seem exceptionally higher as I need two hands to count the deaths of people I can no longer chat to while out on my dog walking round, but only 1 is known Covid,
@dai
I couldn't agree more about stats. However, the total deaths cannot be manipulated. The recorded deaths are what they are.
What is open to adjustment is the classification of the death. For example, on another thread (which was the motivator to start this one) @Bladey gave a 1st hand account of how his aunt was classed as a Covid death when she clearly wasn't. This has happened so much.
Also, treating someone who has died within 28 days of a positive covid test as being a covid test is fraudulent. If companies were doing that with their financial figures they were be fined. However, it seems to be OK for the drug companies to do that with the covid vaccines. The whole thing stinks.
Again to be 100% - I am not disputing there has been a nasty virus. However UK mortatlity rate for last year is clearly not exceptional, only slightly elevated. But still less than every year prior to 2009!
@sgf
Stats only show what data you would like to input and presented in the way you want.
Keeping TV licencing must earn the Gov a few favours, The media definitely shapes the majorities perception..
This is an interesting stats link, remember to look at the population size for the top 5
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Thanks for the links Happys. I’ll check them out later,
I’ve been impresses as this hasn’t degenerated into the standard bun-fight which usually happens on this type of discussion. Bit of banter, but nothing serious IMO.
@dai
No-one is disputing that Covid exists nor is a nasty illness for some. But the UK gov stats don’t support the measures undertaken (the only important figure is total deaths - the Covid deaths have been proven to be, at best, slightly misleading). I, like many others, also don’t trust the MSM.
There was a youtube video I watched with Russell Brand last night (I’ve always found him quite irritating actually), but he explained how many hundreds of millions of $ the Gates foundation pumps journalism/news companies. Now, that won’t be to influence the news agenda will it?
Good thread that Seagulls started with this comment:
'Not looking for a bust-up with people on this, just a genuine interest and some (hopefully) friendly debate on a good board.'
Glad to see I'm not the only sceptic.
Have recently posted these links on a less broad-thinking board:
climate - https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/30/coral-and-the-great-global-warming-lie/
covid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g (Covid ended in Japan by ivermectin)
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/27/only-the-fully-vaccinated-should-fear-the-new-variant/ (failure of the vaccines)
https://t.me/s/robinmg (highly recommended - perhaps the most informative site for Covid )
[For example: Note that in the US they have found almost all deaths and adverse reactions are from just 5% of the batches, and that they have been undertaking 'dosage range-finding' for lethal outcomes on the population. There was a post on this site about 5 days ago: DEPOPULATION: EXPLORING THE POTENTIAL THROUGH INJECTION?
Evidence of DOSE RANGE-FINDING for lethal outcomes:
links here:
VIDEO: https://brandnewtube.com/watch/patterns-in-the-deployment-of-toxic-covid-vaccine-batches_x3LiCNOENb23dnk.html
DOCUMENT:
https://rense.com/general96/toxic-01.pdf ]
Enjoy!
@SGF
Have a read of this article
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52196815
Very interesting UK Government FOI Stats on death rates for the last 30 years.
Look at these and then try to balance the reaction (lockdowns etc.) to the facts. Every year before 2009 had higher Age Adjusted Mortality Rates. Every one. Yes, the rate is slightly higher from 2009 until now, but less then 10% for nearly all years.
How much damage done to mental health, kids education, missed clinical diagnosis, etc.?
https:// www.ons.gov.uk /aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020
(Remove the spaces from the link).
to be fair it has doubled from its lows, I put 10k in each of the kids isa's at 2.1p earlier this year. They have already double bagged.
I was thinking the same myself the other day Jezzac.
I’ve just searched for him on the members page and there’s no results found.
So I found an old post by him on the ADV chat history, clicked on his name which loaded his members page. No post history even though his post count is 8,000+.
Maybe he’s deleted his account here - shame as he contributed a lot.