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i added today as think we are on a track to 30+ rather than lower than this.
Is there any measure anywhere of the volume of shorts by individuals? Shortracker shows three IIs have 2.65% now, is the effect of a mass of individuals unreported?
probably Parvus is out and those who are selling now are PI's
Volume is well down.
Looks on the verge of rotating - will try update at 1500.
See no reason for this drop.
Cheers
JT
Shorts are closing. Actually very low in total.
Parvus almost or already out.
Waiting for RNS from a buyer side.
Markets up, AA down. 2 days long profit taking should make the sp stronger at 26-27 level.
@HOMER1234
Short position is 2.65% not 8.6%. Plenty of upside here IMO. DYOR and good luck.
extrader - It seems like it's a waste of time setting my sell orders at 100p then!!! Lol. I'm not protecting anything!!! Hopefully the hedge funds shorting have had enough, and won't need to borrow my shares anyway. Good luck. Atb.
Does look cheap and I heard AA does have a large short. The short tab shows 8.6 %.
That seems really high. Got to close sometime.
Shorts explained:
https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/9/14/17856048/movies-financial-crisis-streaming-lehman-brothers-versailles-big-short-inside-job
Also:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/020115/big-short-explained.asp
JT
Hi tony99,
.."Shares cannot be loaned out if they have a sell limit..." can't be ? Or 'shouldn't be', because of the risk to the broker ?
If the sell limit was multiples of the actual, some brokers might take a calculated risk.....;-<
Comment from elsewhere : "Putting in a GTC sell order does not preclude your brokerage firm from loaning them out—-I worked in the business for 30 years —if we had em, we would loan em—"...
It would be good to have 'chapter and verse' on this ! Snopes doesn't have anything to say, unfortunately.
ATB
Need to get cracking:
deemule
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A certain person is having my posts deleted 40p by next Thursday.
Umh - wonder what the news is ???
That is nice of you Popeye.
deemule - Good explanation regarding shorting. Well done for explaining it in such a helpful manner. Your imput on the board is much appreciated. Atb.
Just to add - it's not that relevant with the AA but a tactic to keep your shares from being loaned out to shorters:
1.) Ask your broker if they loan out shares. Many don't which is good if you believe in a company.
2.) Place a sell limit. Shares cannot be loaned out if they have a sell limit. To be safe set if for something like £800 and set the time limit to the maximum allowed.
This is what I used to do with some US shares I owned with a US broker. They would loan out shares but I made sure that mine could be. Get enough people to do this and the number of shares available to short drops and many funds will look elsewhere to make a profit.
Most people here buy shares because they think they will go up (AKA going long/longs)
Many large hedge funds and some individuals short stocks (AKA going short / shorting / shorters)
To go short they borrow shares, wait for them to drop and then return them back. Pocketing the difference. They get hurt if the share goes up but could wait it out.
Andrew.
2 VG examples to Google:
1.Porsch / VW - the Big Squeeze - it was the largest Short of possibly all time.
2. There's a movie - that covers the 2008 crash (Housing bubble) / it explains the workings in clear language. Basically Shorts saw the bubble coming and shorted the entire market !!!
GL with your research
JT
Here you go https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/short.asp
Basically they are hedging against the company and anticipating a drop in SP or bad news, they can also completely manipulate a share price of a large company if there is enough fire power with bots. See Metro and others, it'sbeen manipulated for the past 18 months after some bad accounting.
Good news is with the AA they are starting to exit which looks good for us
Very basically companies or hedge funds borrow shares of holders and pay a fee for borrowing and sell the borrowed shares to bring the price down as low as they can.
Then they buy back the borrowed shares as cheaply as they can and keep the difference.
As a novice what do you mean by shorts? Sorry to sound stupid but very new to this
Sell at your peril IMHO unless you are in profit as a profit is a profit.
This is the remaining shorts manipulating the SP so they can exit, seen it a million times.