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Peaky yam yam shows his intelligence again. What a ****womble.
No qualifications required, which is why they deliver letters and lose their own Jobs by striking....proper thickos.
Mr muler I agree good post
Adding to your post .. doctors and nurses striking has serious consequences, rail and ferry strikes cause bad chaos and the economy slows - I am really not sure in a modern day and age of e mail that not having post or even a parcel for a day has a huge effect apart from lose Royal Mail workers sympathy and ultimately jobs
Please can someone help me actually
For the average day 50 year old posty - what do they earn roughly including pension and any other benefits ? As I have said before the only posties I personally know do it for lifestyle - a bit like being yoeman of the guard at the Tower of London after a good career in the army and well earned
Also sorry one more what do new postmen and ladies get paid - I don’t mean this in the way some will read it but there can’t be many qualifications required to become a postmen ? To repeat I really don’t mean that in the derogatory way it might sound
Isle, never forget that Redceo wished death on posties in the heatwave. Karma was his words.
Anger , I've always found you to be a decent poster on here. You have never been afraid to ask questions, to do with the workings of Royal Mail.
You have never tried to undermine those that work for the company.
Myself and others on here that work for Royal Mail just like to point out the total garbage that others put on here, some of it is complete and utter tosh.
Many of us are shareholders and are seeing the total shambles that this board is making of the company.
We are a letter company delivering parcels. We will always be a company that delivers letters and if that stops Royal Mail will be nationalised.
Most posties have encouraged the board to expand the company , fight for more parcel business and expand the company. Unfortunately they haven't won more business and are running the company into the ground.
Isle. A little insight into my life would show that money is not a main driver. It maintains a good lifestyle but if I never earned another penny my pockets would still be full on the day I departed.
The idea of gloating over others losing jobs as a result of their bad decisions is appaling.
My frustration at such as you not learning from their mistakes is a temporary thought that is soon dismissed with my morning coffee and my usual cheerful disposition.
I'm not worried at all JB . What suprises me is the amount of false information you put on here. Seems like you are panicking over your losses.
You have been going on about temps for weeks and your claim that they come at no cost due to Angard. Yet most come via other agencies. Drivers in large numbers from Pertemps at double the cost. Now you claim they are subcontracted, by Angard , so are you now trying to claim at no extra cost.
Then we come to the Complete tosh about vacancies being down. If that's the case , why are deliveries failing in every office and why are so many of the younger workers leaving . I think you make it up as you go along.
Doctors and nurses have saved the lives of thousands of Covid patients over the pandemic and still do today, at great risk to themselves and their own health but their reward is a 4% pay rise - why do RMG employees/postmen feel they deserve more?
As most if not all of those participating in the strike will be shareholders - as shares plummet you become poorer.
Ispy I am talking payroll not handling/delivery costs. Yep 4 days of less items delivered at greatly reduced payroll costs. I do agree with you IA will be very damaging for RMG and its employees and customers.
@ JBT.
You clearly have had difficulty reading my post.
A like for like basis on the agency staff in my office, assuming volumes all attempted delivery, and agency fees of £20 per hour.
So, lets assume your agency figure of £100 per 6 hour day. £17 per hour. Still over 20 grand per day assuming 3,000 items.
Let's halve that too, in line with IA. Still more than you'd pay your posties.
You can dress this up any way you want. These strikes, if they go ahead, will be extremely damaging for RMG.
The sooner Thompson realises, the better. (I'm sure i've said that before).
Dynamofc they are sub contracted via Angard but makes little difference in the scheme of things if we can only get a handful in. Great to see the level of vacancies have been reducing over the last few months. Please dont let it worry you if they cant get the staff in its not your responsibility. You seem quite anxious about it they cant be a threat to you as I assume you are a full time substantive employee.
I will say it for the last time JB. MOST AGENCY WORKERS AT ROYAL MAIL DONT GET EMPLOYED VIA ANGARD . Is that clear enough for you. We are paying numerous agencies because Angard can't find the workers.
@ Redceo.
If you're going to buy more if/when the price drops, you should be championing us. Not posting abusive messages.
And why would this lead to you being frustrated. You should be jumping through hoops. Don't tell me you're concerned about the service we provide. Or indeed the fact that we may all lose our jobs, as many here have alluded to.
Conflicting thoughts there.
But i'll leave you with your frustration.
@ Anger. 20.02 post
"""JB - There seems that there is a large contingent of the workers that are relishing the strikes, almost enjoying it?"""
You could not be more wrong.
@ Anger.
Because that's all you Kretinsky lovers talk about.
He's buying up chunks because of GLS.
I'm fully aware of what VESA hold. It's mentioned enough on this BB.
Do i think it will be sold off? No. For the very reason that i mentioned earlier. Unless of course RMG was renationalised.
Spun off? No. For the same reason.
Just an opinion. But i wouldn't be holding my breath, despite Thompsons assertions.
Why do you think Thompson mentioned the sell off? Was it to worry posties who hold shares? It seems like a thinly veiled threat.
Wouldn't you agree?
And if it was a threat to posties who are shareholders, wouldn't the same apply to other shareholders?
Just my thoughts.
So we pay agency £30k wow. I thought they would be on around approx £100 per 6 hour day?? No need for anymore figures I am sure they earn what you say. Of course the volumes will drop during any periods of IA when mainly businesses make alternative arrangements and some never to return.
@ JBT.
If you read my earlier post about the agency staff in my office. 16 items, paid for 8 hours, agency rate about £20 per hour = £ 10 per item. I could be wrong with the agency price, but i won't be far out.
Let's use my figures then for tracked and specials in my office. Circa 3,000. I can get a more exact figure tomorrow if you wish.
So, on this basis that all items are attempted, that's £30,000!!!!
On a normal day we may have 45 staff, if we were ever fully staffed. That's about 6 grand. If you factor in paying double, sick, light duties etc, you're looking at 9 grand as an exaggerated figure.
I do however agree with your last paragraph. But in my opinion, it doesn't start with me starting later. The sooner Thompson listens, the better for all concerned.
Common I’m not shorting mate just looking for a quick short term gain as this has the hallmark of becoming a good quick investment good luck
Mr arsenal go for it !! Professional shorters will know there is a danger of this big % move, big enough to wipe out amateur shorters. Do be carful. As say that as an arsenal fan to help
Mr Isleworth - re GLS there are two ceos - and a chair - the chair will spin off GLS as that is the only way to get Rmg to independent profitability which I have no doubt it can return to - the decision makers will be chair, ceo or GLS and Mr K with 22%. I would expect all 3 to want the spin off and force Royal Mail to be profitable and limit pay rises to what it can afford, like any business. If anything I would expect Simon Thompson to want to keep GLS in house. Either way a strategic holding can be retained easily.
Within Royal Mail I believe there is a very valuable business.
Asharkz we are only seeing a snapshot of a few employees who are happy to spend their time on here to share their opinions. Not that anything any of us writes has any impact on the wider business decisions. I am sure a majority will be genuinely disappointed to have to be taking IA.
It is their right to do so and I hope some/all have considered the full impacts if they do or don't take action.
Will be interesting to see if the shorters have increased their positions today, to get the ball rolling again.
Common this has plenty of downsides in it at present so I will be watching carefully as there could be a good short term profit to be had !
Sorry point being that 50% will be the opening price so you won’t get a chance to get in for a portion of it
Mr arsenal - just be aware when clear news of GLS breaks this stock could rise 50% !! Yes 50%. Investors now need to take probably a touch more pain down to 250p worst case I think and then we will get our upside hopefully having bought more
A quality post, thank you