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@ Anger.
And RMG rejected the request.
They could have said we'll give you 4.5%, put it to your members. But they said a flat no.
Both the same is the point i was making.
The silly thing is, that if RMG had dangled a guaranteed one-off payment with that 2%, the majority of staff would have accepted it. I definitely wouldn't have. But the voting process is there for a reason.
@ DerekR
@ JBT.
In my area we have 3 suggested (soon to be enforced?) parcel hubs.
I don't know if there is any other purpose for these hubs other than delivery. I could be wrong.
So, IMO, these hubs will be used to capture and deliver what we call LAT's. Items correct for delivery the following day but have been received into the network too late to meet the posties in the morning.
On a recent mail centre visit i was shown how many yorks there were for my area. There was 4. That's it. Overtime is paid to carry out this work.
I do accept that later acceptance times for guaranteed next day delivery will increase this figure though.
What i don't get is changing everyone's hours to facilitate the delivery of these items. It's not necessary.
Delivery of letters do not matter to the managers, from the delivery office anagers right to the very top. But they are not allowed to say that.
You can have your localised hubs, later start times and you'd have willing staff to deliver too. And that would "probably" include Sunday as part of your rota.
I really do not understand Simons thought process.
@ Anger.
While no figure was quoted when the CWU asked for a pay rise in line with inflation, it was considerably lower than now.
Wasn't that request rejected? So, the hierarchy have by the same token, rejected a request that they didn't know the figures for.
Thompson has clearly stated that this enforced pay rise is final, so we will be striking.
ASharkz it is unusual as you would normally know business has offered 2% CWU want say 6% and agreement is struck around say 3.75%. These negotiations and discussions have felt different from early days with very little compromise or flex by either side.
Unless CEO and Chair agree to a meeting looks like its going to be allowed to run its course for a period of time but as always something will give and I honestly couldn't say where.
Re your earlier comment re shorters still no change reported tonight. As Redceo has said it is just gradually declining this week without the shorters being evident and likely to continue its downward trajectory.
SP 285.10 Monday morning dropped since. This will only go down unless people that can make decisions get around the same table and find common ground.
All very well talking the talk but only compromises will get the job done. CWU have a track record that can be learned from whereas Simon is an unknown.
I watched the CWU update video. Zero movement from the business in the talks. Basically no further point as no progress. Only option is the F2F with CEO and chair. CWU ready for a war unless the business comes back with an improved/acceptable pay offer. Feels like last chances quickly running out.
vet 10. if i was you troll the daily mail board.... they'll love you!!!!!!
Cutting to the chase then.
The CWU have suspended negotiations with the current shackled team and requested a summit meeting with the chairman and CEO directly.
Sack the strikers and bring in workers from the emerging commonwealth countries. Job done. Striking is unacceptable and idle.
The very same to you Arsenal. My very best wishes and hope things are coming together for you.
Red I see you still have your forthright approach and that’s your choice I’m sure you can handle whoever has a different opinion to yours life is too short for this good luck
Arsenal. I think if you did some analysis you would find that some use the word "filtered" as a badge of disgrace. I won't mention names but have lost count of the replies from these people.
Others are the most regular responders to my posts about anything. Personally I think filter away I don't give a toss.
HUNT. Unfortunately the comment about me being the poster "feline" was way back, hence the need to research way back. Perhaps also your jokey reference to me being JB also contributed to the memory association. It's unusual to reach a satisfactory conclusion with regard to comments here. Perhaps my methods work. Enjoy your day, until the next time ;-)
Typo error sorry Phunt
Phantom I think you will find a lot on here have Filtered but at present I find it quite hilarious good luck !
I never denied saying you had multiple accounts , in fact you didn't have to waste your time going that far back as I accused you only a couple of weeks ago saying that you were jb. It was however tongue in cheak as he suggested you were normal , and I said only you yourself could think that, so it must be your account . Words to that effect anyway. But again , this whole topic just goes to show how strange you really are . I'm done now , I'm sure everyone is sick of having to read this usual tosh rather than relevant speak . So goodbye redstripe, have a good rest of your day .
Hunt.
It would appear that I have made a connection of your suggesting I had multiple identities and messages from you to feline where she totally disagreed with your viewpoint regarding myself and her.
So my error.
Ahhh! someone is feeling left out x
I knew you had posted about me having duplicate identities (which I don't) plus there is a post accusing me of being feline. Were they separate posters, hmmm
Phunt73
RE: Falkland plus future15 Jan 2021 21:59
With your obsession with this board and your unbelievable view of your own self importance really wouldn't surprise me if you had ghost accounts setup to recommend yourself
Write soon HUNT
WEAK!!!
HUNT, Yes your correct. I know that you have a thing where I'm concerned, but couldn't believe over 50% of your posts are related to me. Don't you think it's a bit ODD!
Of course Feline refused to back up your strange indignation regarding our conversations. Have a look again they are certainly not one sided. Who knows maybe your suffering withdrawal symptoms. Don't worry I shall reply when you write about me. So you won't feel neglected.
As for the Identity thing I didn't check all. Write when you feel the need.
Hahaha you actually did it , I knew you wouldn't be able to resist . You tried very hard to resist I'll give you that " as long as I know is enough for me " you said , but it was just eating away at you wasn't it? And you caved , went and had a look , and found nothing that has me saying you were feline . And , even if half of my 115 posts was about you that's still a few thousand posts less than your count will be about other people on this board. People in glass houses .......
Hunt. I did as you asked but had to leave because it's so dull reading your posts. I knew you were a bit obsessed but over half of your posts are about ME!
I did see this though which reinforces my point.
Phunt73
RE: What did I say ??28 Feb 2020 14:54
Feline , some of the lude insinuations Redceo has made towards you have been far more derogatory towards you . But it's ok as long as you find them complimentary is it.