Stephan Bernstein, CEO of GreenRoc, details the PFS results for the new graphite processing plant. Watch the video here.
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@ Farmog. Just this bit from your post says it all.
"""If Orion et al cannot see the monumental change done at Vanchem and see what is coming at Vametco then we are stuffed."""
They can. That's the concern.
@pb940.
Thanks for the link. My take on it is that we will be gone within two months. SPR look like they could be our only saviour. Why can they not provide an interest free loan in lieu of the sale of vanchem and Mokopane? Much like they did in February. Probably because they want the whole business for peanuts.
CC's bullishness going forward is great, but i think this presentation is just readying everyone for the inevitable.
Do i take a 60% loss tomorrow, hold for one more spike, or hold in case i'm totally wrong? I think it will be the latter. AIM is for gamblers, after all.
I thought he was pretty straight talking .. a couple of my questions not taken, but basically without a substantial capital injection (my guess is £15-£20m) then getting to the point they are expecting Vanadium pricing to start decent rises ( this time next year) will be pretty much a non starter.
Since June last year vanadium pricing has dropped by over 30% (from a modest level as well)
In the end, his point was that both SPR and to a much larger extent Orion have put a lot of money in and would stand to loose a fair chunk of it. They all agree Vanadium pricing is historically low and see the cycle reversing ... do they want or have the cash to make the substantial returns happen
Survival must mean substantial dilution. They struggled with a fund raise at 3p. Not sure how successful one would be at 0.65p ... basically a 50% dilution to get £15m ... right now I would vote for that.
Frankly though, I am not that hopeful.... buggering about for fund raises is a distraction. If Orion et al cannot see the monumental change done at Vanchem and see what is coming at Vametco then we are stuffed.
Dead and bust in 2 months or has funding to survive and thrive are the two options I see..... and SPR will loose a lot. They do not have Mokopane or 50% of Vanchem and their loans to date are unsecured .... would they survive ?
As for Belco .. hand washed .. that place will close soon I think. the IDC won't really want to fund much more.
A good IM, but really just says .. if someone does not pony up a lot of working capital very shortly, then will the last one close the door on the way out
Largo also haemorrhaging cash and have been for months.. on a time limited mine. How much longer before that halt for a bit .. and if BMN is gone and Largo suspends ops, that is a lot of USA supply gone .... China would love that !
You couldn't wish for a more straight talking CEO. Even admits his own incorrect assumptions, as well rightly lauding the turn around in production efficiency. However, apart from securing some short term cash (I'm sure he will) it seems as though V price is the dominant factor going forward.
I am still here, rode up to 49p, held out for £1+, got it wrong and now well underwater. Sacked my astrologer, smashed my crystal ball and have a half scale model of Fortune for sale, i'll also throw in the Mikhail model for free, so realistic it's invisible.
Only just come across this thread as I was intrigued to learn what has gone wrong with Bushveld this last year.
I am truly saddened to read that Pdub has passed away. He was the epitome of a fiercely loyal, long term PI. I don't know of anyone else who took part in the initial run-up and rally to 40p, and through all the subsequent decline. There was one other who claimed to be a LTH, BigBiteNow, around the same time, but he exited at a decent profit, I believe.
A great shame Pdub didn't live to enjoy the fruits of success justified by total belief in management. Life can be so unfair.
RIP, sir.
Don’t hear much from Coffee Cups those days, imagine that last SP fall stopped him out along with the rest of the traders.
If BMN does survive, there won’t be many bulls left on the long side once the SP trend reverses, that’s for sure.
Well the interesting thing was it was a 6 day wait for the IM .. might have expected it thur or even friday ..... But the cold reality is that the company needs to secure working capital pretty much equivalent to its current mcap to survive into next year at current vanadium prices.
In January, Lemur was all but sold (just needed BoD approval he said)... there is the value of the Cellcube holding .. neither will be massive, but a decent level of W/C... and the cost measure seem to be working well,
Everyone seems to agree Vanadium pricing will rise .. just can we limp on until then ... its a pure punt right now
With a virtual 14.7 million reported sold @ 0.65 and the same number reported bought @ 0.65 … It looks to be a straightforward trade transfer. Nothing to see here, imo.
Which leads me to believe we may see an RNS on Monday morning, call it a gut feel. Let’s see if I’m right, feel free to condemn me if not.
Interesting these occur ahead of the investor call on Monday.
What is a sell/buy transfer?
The numbers look like a sell/buy transfer
Showing trades for about 8.5 million but volume of nearly 38 million?
The 2 large trades....should show up soon.
Has just leapt from 7m+ to 22m+
Yet the price/demand has crashed and yet to reverse. The US steel mills have been pretty busy over the last couple of years. Europe has and is still very subdued. China is supposed to be increasing production again, but not its property sector - its greatest consumer, and is being threatened with tariffs/sanctions in the West, because it is getting cheap oil/gas from Russia to make its steel. So may not reach previous production levels again. China has a lot of problems and may never recover that capacity. How quick will India/Europe/ROW fill the vacuum and what state will BMN be in by the time $40 kg/V comes back? I agree it will happen, but time is ticking and patient is on life-support. You are a dreamer if you are not worried.
Yes @Marc... but the question is can Bushy hold on long enough for a recovery ?
0.69 to buy atm
What the doomsters on here dont seem to want to acknowledge is that whilst yes, China has driven the prices of V, going forward demand for steel will come from other developing countries like India.
I lol at the idea that just because China's taken a hit that global demand for V falls off a cliff, nah, sorry dont buy that.
You are right but we agree demand increased and so did price.But at this level company is losing money on production.
As always you like to twist the truth to point score.
In Q1 2023 with V above $40/kgV the outlook was very bright. As V tanked and the true state of operations under Fortune was revealed I, consistent with that, become less positive. I have never argued this is a brilliant investment since, despite holding on to many of my shares which are now on a 90% loss.
This is AIM, something said now won't necessarily hold true in another eighteen months time.
@Harchris
Talk about stating the obvious.
Give it a rest for a bit.
Not that long ago your fantasy world accounting was going to pay off Orion in one hit.
Cinder is right. A load of buildings fell down in an earthquake. Again.