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Thomas Cook Share Chat (TCG)



Share Price: 15.15Bid: 15.14Ask: 15.25Change: 0.00 (0.00%)No Movement on Thomas Cook
Spread: 0.11Spread as %: 0.73%Open: 15.115High: 0.00Low: 0.00Yesterday’s Close: 15.15


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avocet123
Posts: 1,590
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Thu 06:20
Market makers are unable to raise or drop the sp. They have no mechanism to do this. They just make money on the spread. They are unable to manipulate the sp.
 
CloudyMountain
Posts: 77
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Wed 22:12
Let’s say you’re a market maker and you drop the price deliberately and let it keep on falling. That should engender fear and promote more selling... which promotes even more selling. Do it for a day or two, retain a proportion of the shares sold to you, then do the opposite - raise the price. People suffer from FOMO & jump in, buying. You offload a mass of shares sold to you days beforehand at a much higher price.

I’ve wondered if that happens but I have no idea.

Get it wrong and when you raise the price, people sell. But if you’ve got deep pockets and you have decades of experience behind you & decades of knowledge of human psychology, you can ride the times you get it wrong - and you can always drop the price if it’s getting too costly for you.

In theory, sell volume should equal buy volume. The fact that it often doesn’t surely means that the market makers must on those days be left either with excess shares or “owing” shares.

I am just guessing.
CloudyMountain
Posts: 77
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Wed 21:59
It’s not that the share price necessarily falls. It’s that one day it’ll fall and another it’ll rise. There seems to be no correlation.

I wonder if it’s market makers doing things to make money, if I can put it that way. I thought they weren’t allowed to do that - that every sell is matched with a buy - but there are legal loopholes in many things. I am just guessing.
DMcG54
Posts: 79
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Wed 21:28
Thanks for the heads up cloudy mountain
manchego
Posts: 676
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Wed 20:31
Thanks Cloudy Mountain. Well, lets throw it open. Anyone know why the share price falls when buys heavily outweigh sells?
CloudyMountain
Posts: 77
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Wed 19:59
Manchego, my original comment got onto that but I deleted it as I was guessing. If anyone knows, I’d be grateful.

All I can say is that the first time I saw buy & sell volumes listed, I thought you’d be able to predict the movement. I quickly learned that it’s not that easy.
manchego
Posts: 676
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Wed 18:41
Why doesn't it work like that Cloudy Mountain?
CloudyMountain
Posts: 77
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.07
RE: Volumes
Wed 18:19
DMcG, re “I'm not delusional or ramping it's just on LSE its stating 2 million more shares bought than sold do the price should be going up not down surely”

It doesn’t work like that I’m afraid. It should do but it doesn’t.
DMcG54
Posts: 79
Opinion:No Opinion
Price:16.30
Volumes
Wed 15:06
I think the share price is being fricked about with. I'm not delusional or ramping it's just on LSE its stating 2 million more shares bought than sold do the price should be going up not down surely, unless a lower price has been agreed by MMs and buyer(s).

I'm no expert and not claiming to be it just looks fishy on face value




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