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Now that is a great post right there...respect to you Waterdrinker, although I do feel a bit like I've been told off by my headmaster :)
A very good synopsis from you though, with no outrageous ramping in any way...all believable facts that any newbie can read, digest, and make up their own minds from.
I have to also agree that the spat between myself and OMM has become slightly tiresome, and way too personal at times, so I am happy to call a truce...and retire from our long drawn out battle as the winner by a short head :)
Joking aside for a sec...in all honesty, and whatever anyone believes or not, I only ever started posting here out of annoyance as a result of my friend being enticed into investing a massive amount of money in Rockfire (and then unfortunately losing half of it)...
I know it's so easy to say that my friend should have done their own DD before investing, and nobody forced them to buy or sell at a big loss...
Yes, but on the flip side, it is so easy for newbie investors to be drawn in by the bright lights and instant road to riches (and OMM was definitely promising that and a lot more back then).
There's no doubt in my mind that as a result of this incessant ramping that there are now many other investors who also fell into the same no-brainer ramp trap as my friend did, and invested sums way above their means.
By the way, if you read back through my post history, I have brought up many valid points and reasoning why not to invest in Rockfire, and mostly backed up by facts freely available in RNS's and other company reports...so it's not all been about gut instinct.
Anyway, each to their own...hopefully you good folk will miss my charm and banter :)
Peace out.
WSG.
Admittedly, company valuations is not my forte @Waterdrinker, and I have always been upfront in that regard.
However, when outrageous figures/estimates/SP targets are bandied about in here and elsewhere by certain individuals, then it is obvious to me that they have an ulterior motive for doing so?
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves"
In Rockfire's case it is obvious to me that something just ain't right, and that goes much deeper than just looking at project potential/metal still in the ground/company yearly accounts/spreadsheets etc.
And unless you hadn't noticed, playing the AIM junior miner game is tantamount to having a flutter down the local bookie...you may think that dumping cash into Rockfire is an 'investment', when in fact it is no different to having a punt on the 2:45 at Newmarket!
Good luck whichever of the above you choose...
WSG
Got to give you credit OMM for your total commitment to this share, but all of these figures that you're spouting are pure hearsay until they actually happen, don't you agree?
In a perfect world all of the Rockfire projects would deliver on their potential, but up to now the market has not been impressed...
Whether that be the grades at Copperhead, the gold at Plateau, or even this shiny new Greek zinc project...
Absolutely nothing has captured the attention of the market, and that tells me that something is amiss.
I go more by my gut instinct and general sentiment rather than 'potential' figures plucked out of thin air OMM.
Therefore, asking me to post my calculations/valuation on a junior miner is a bit like asking Kwasi Kwarteng to manage the UK economy...i.e. we both haven't got a clue :)
I will stick to my property portfolio thanks bud...
Whatever anyone thinks, I do hope that Rockfire comes good for you all, and if it does then I will be the first one to come on here and admit that I was wrong.
Of course, if the worst happens and Rockfire does go ti*s up as I predict, then I would expect you to come on here and do the same thing OMM?
All the best folks...
WSG
I think OMM meant a 0.2p safety net by the looks of things!
WSG
Really sorry for anyone still invested in Rockfire.
Also sorry for the ones who've taken that horrible gut wrenching decision to sell up at a loss...
I empathize with you all, and if I was in the same boat then I would have made the same decision to sell up whilst there is still some semblance of an SP to at least get something back.
0.26p now and it's capitulating on a daily basis...absolute sh*t show.
Even OMM can't defend this share now, or defend his very poor stock picking ability either.
He's cost many gullible newbie investors (and more seasoned ones too) life changing sums of money by 'enticing' them to go all in on Rockfire.
A grovelling apology to everyone involved in this debacle is the least he should offer now?
Stay safe all, and best of luck with everything.
WSG.
@OMM,
Please don't get me started on moral principles pal, when you're the one who's sent your loyal members up the sh*t creek without a paddle by shilling them the Rockfire dream.
The SP is already in the twenties (as I predicted) with punters bailing on a daily basis whilst they still can, as can be seen by the recent big sell-off.
It will be forever on your conscience OMM when this eventually goes belly up costing your crew hundreds of thousands of pounds into the bargain...
Then again, I doubt very much if your massive ego will allow you to even consider what emotional/financial devastation your actions have already, and will continue to cause to anyone who was taken in by your ex-professional city trading BS propaganda...
And you've got the nerve to try and disrespect me in here when you know absolutely nothing about me!
And I mean that sincerely OMM...you know diddly squat about me as can be seen by your obsession with thinking that I'm some bloke called Kevin Horsby, amongst others!
You've lost the plot so it's time to hang up your boots pal, and toddle off to that paradise island that you shilled to all of your victims as part of the 'no-brainer dream'...your reputation is in tatters, nobody believes in you anymore, finished, end of.
Best of luck to anyone else still marooned in the Rockfire debacle...
WSG.
Aha, the old morse code message from OMM.
I can still decipher MC messages , even though it's been many years since I left my high ranking Royal Navy position...
Respect was in abundance from my loyal serving crew back then...and then we've got you OMM...
"Feck off you fat unoch" is a very classy and professional riposte from you, fair play to you pal...
@Hoppo,
Sorry to hear about your financial loss here pal.
My good friend is still haunted by their hefty loss here too, so I can fully empathize with you.
Also have to agree with your warning to ignore any 'investment advice' from OMM.
To be frank, I don't know how he's still got the nerve to post advice in here, or in his Telegram group no doubt, when the harsh reality is that he's cost a lot of (possibly gullible) people from his inner sanctum, in the region of hundreds of thousands of pounds in total.
In case anyone is wondering, I'm not exaggerating about that gargantuan figure either!!
It is my understanding that the total share holding from his TG group alone was/is upwards of 100 million Rockfire shares!!!
When one considers that the majority of those purchases likely came AFTER those poor members joined his cult as a result of OMM's "incessant ramping", then one can see how much of a profoundly negative impact this man and his Rock debacle has/will cause to the lives of many of his longtime suffering, and now most likely mentally crushed individuals.
For all their sakes, I hope that they can pick themselves up and learn from this debacle (my friend still gets very down, angry with themselves at times, but has at least gained a very valuable life lesson)...
I.E. Always DYOR, your own due diligence and gut instinct is way more valuable than the advice of 99.9% of these so called 'experts' that frequent boards such as this one.
Best of luck to you all.
WSG.
Lol OMM,
You've lost the plot bud...
I'm not Kevin Hornsby (haven't got a clue who he is by the way)...
I'm not Bruce Hornsby either, and that's just "The Way It Is" :)
Will leave you alone for now to dig an even deeper hole as I'm flying off today for another one of my luxury holidays.
Arrivederci...will raise a glass to you when I arrive OMM.
1) More chance of 'doing a Foinavon' with 12 picks rather than just the one!
2) Harsh, very harsh, but I won't retaliate by lowering myself to your level ;)
3) Hmmmmm...maybe that was an orchestrated pump n dump by my 'pals' as you so succinctly put it...i.e. out of your control bud, and could easily happen again at any time?
4) You obviously don't take too kindly to being offered an olive branch do you? (I reckon you secretly get off on verbally bullying me which says a lot about your character OMM).
Over to you old comrade, over and out...
Something certainly stinks here OMM, and I reckon you've finally worked out what has turned rotten?
I had to refresh my browser several times this evening when checking todays trades in Rockfire...
Not a single buy in sight for the "best no-brainer investment since Adam was a boy."
Surely the savvy, clued up investors would be pumping cold hard cash into such a rare beast as is Rockfire?
You've backed the wrong horse bud, admit it, and we can all move on.
(By the way, it looks like my friend luckily dodged a bigger bullet by getting out when they did)!
Anyway, I have much bigger fish to fry elsewhere...
Good luck and best of British to you old comrade...same goes to Fred ;)
Just passing through from another timezone, and I'm so deeply saddened by this Rockfire debacle.
I feel genuinely sorry for anyone who may be heavily down, and consequently trapped in this nightmare of a share, ad infinitum.
Even the wise old sage, my nemesis, has gone quiet ever since I famously outbattled him in here, which is significant IMO and tells its own story.
Has it finally twigged with him that what I've been saying all along about Rock could actually be correct?
Consequently, has the Captain deserted his crew, and left them to flounder in the wreckage that is Rockfire?
Anyway, as someone posted in here just recently, Mr.P has now released all of his powder puff ammunition via some feeble RNS's, and they have all been swatted away by the market like one of those annoying wasps that frequent every beer garden!
Surely nobody still believes in the 'Rock no-brainer fairytale story' that was bandied about by a certain you know who ramper over a year ago? (should be 20p+ by now according to his outrageous calculations)!
The mood and atmosphere in here feels very sombre right now, so I'm guessing that only the extreme stalwarts are still invested, whilst the rest have taken that awful decision to abandon ship before drowning?
As I said, just passing through...
Stay safe all...
And then he was gone as quickly as he came...
WSG...
Okay folks, for the sake of this chat and all of the genuine people in here, I will be the better man and refrain from anymore schooling of OMM.
I don't want to wind him up any more than I already have as he becomes rather aggressive, prickly and transforms into a paranoid android at times.
I have only ever wanted to get my point across that a lot of what he has posted previously has been proved to be BS, but he still carries on like he 'owns' people in here (and on Telegram no doubt).
At times, I find his comments patronising, condescending, which smacks of someone with a superiority complex and an ego as big as Donald Trump's!
I won't fall for it though, and he hates the fact that I have him in my pocket and have played him like my puppet all along...that's what has wound him up so much I believe.
Anyway folks, it's been good chatting with you all and I hope that Rockfire 'does a Lazarus' and makes everyone rich, just like OMM has guaranteed all along.
WSG...(to be continued)?
Well, well, well, OMM has been laying it on really thick today in my absence so I see.
Trying to discredit me by claiming that I'm some bloke that I've not heard of before has only had the effect of discrediting himself even further.
Had to laugh at his Zinc projection based on 4 price scenarios, ALL OF THEM ABOVE THE CURRENT ZINC SPOT PRICE!!
He must be very optimistic, or delusional, as the Zinc price is only going much lower from here in the mid/long term.
We are entering a deep recession OMM unless you hadn't noticed, and metals will always take a hammering in this scenario, and take many, many years to recover.
You must do better and remember to take the macro outlook into consideration before making such claims (schoolboy error)!
If the above doesn't sink in OMM, then maybe the response that you received from Mr. P recently, and posted in here for all to see, will do the trick?
I quote in Mr. P's own words:-
"There are several points in your DCF which I believe may not be appropriate for Molaoi. I will also caution that although you are relying on assumptions, it is premature to be predicting numbers at this point in time. Bear in mind that your calculations are also relying on Inferred resources, which is not permitted under the JORC Code"
I get the feeling Mr. P is trying to tell you in the nicest possible way that you are going way overboard with your targets, which might blind side gullible punters into 'investing' in Rockfire without doing their own proper research and due diligence beforehand.
And what the heck has the Ukrainian crisis got to do with the price of fish?
Once again, in case you didn't hear me the first time, we were already heading into a global recession before Putin decided to go and stick his boot in...even if the conflict ended tomorrow, it wouldn't change the fact that we are heading into one of the worst ever global economic crises known to man.
And to get one last thing off my chest OMM, all of this Zinc talk from you feels like the final epitaph to the copper projects that were your darlings just a few short months ago (before Molaoi was even a glint in your eye)...
You love moving the goalposts don't you...Rock to Contarf...Copper to Zinc...then back again.
Make your mind up man!
WSG.
LOL @ HornyGW, it is quite ironic how the headmaster (OMM) thinks that it's okay to pull someone up on their misinterpretation or misspelling of something, when everything he writes in here is straight from the Chuckle Brothers manuscript.
He also has the gall to say that Conroy has tumbled down causing heavy losses, when his very own love child (Rockfire) has fallen over 60% from when he shilled it to his poor disciples (including my friend) a year or so ago.
In fact, let us compare the 2 shares over a year:-
Conroy +8% (that's plus 8%)
Rockfire -68% (that's minus 68%)
Go figure!!
He even has the nerve to go on about poor market timing and poor reading of the macro outlook, when his own personal record in that regard is probably the worst I've ever seen (and he's an ex-pro don't forget LOL)...
It has also come to my attention through my 'associates' that OMM is now shilling Clontarf in yet another one of his Telegram Holy Grail groups, and two timing poor old Rockfire in the process!
No loyalty whatsoever, and he's probably started many more of these groups too?
Surely he has learned his lesson from the Rockfire debacle, and the pain caused to many unfortunate souls?
The man knows no bounds, and it does make me wonder why he feels the need to offer investment advice at all?
Is it just to inflate his already humungous ego, or is there something more sinister lurking in the depths?
"OMM is here to shill, spread outlandish no-brainer comments and false guarantees in an attempt to manipulate sentiment, do not be fooled by this Contarf/Wreckfire hybrid fan."
Anyway OMM, thank you for letting me know that I've reached the landmark 100 posts, and the fact that you were the 1st one to spot it means more to me than a telegram from the Queen :)
Is post 101 destined for room 101 though I wonder?
Take it easy all...
WSG, over and out.
Every share will have had a chequered past at some point bankrupty...sorry for your loss in Conroy as that is very hard to take, so I hope you can recover from that in time, and rise like a Phoenix.
However, the past year has been transformational for Conroy (CGNR), which I believe now makes it a compelling investment case.
The JV with Demir (subsidiary of Koc Holdings and the 3rd largest company in Turkey) is a company defining one IMO.
A bit like signing Messi or Ronaldo in their prime...
AAZ were also in the hunt to JV with Conroy, and they were positively salivating over the gold prospects at Clontibret until Demir came along and usurped them...these guys are no mugs...follow the money as they say.
As mentioned before, most base metals such as Copper & Zinc are in a death spiral bear market with one of the worst ever global economic crises upon us, and a very deep recession is now more or less guaranteed.
That's why I keep saying that gold is a great hedge in times like these, and Conroy is in the perfect position to capitalize on this, and is a "no-brainer" IMO (especially at the current SP)...
Yes, the SP has taken a dip recently due to very poor overall market sentiment, but once the global economic sh*t hits the fan over the coming months, the smart money always heads for the safe havens (gold), and Conroy will rise once again like that Phoenix I keep banging on about.
N.B. All of the above is just IMO, so please DYOR folks.
WSG.
Okay, I'll be up front with you folks.
It was never my intention to go to the AGM, and here is my reasoning...
My main intention was to make OMM feel duty bound to go as I felt he owed that at the very least to all of his loyal troops (and my unfortunate friend)...a true leader would be there on the front line paying back all of the blood sweat and tears endured by his poor flock...
I wanted him to go armed with a plethora of questions for Mr. P...scrutinizing David's strategy...weaning out those little t*t bits of info that mere mortals would never be able to.
Then I wanted him to come back armed with all of this knowledge and give a true Churchillian speech telling everyone how everything was going to be okay and how Rockfire would make poor people into millionaires.
I was calling his bluff about me going all along in order to help you genuine folk, but alas, it looks like I failed in my real mission as he sent an "associate" instead, and for that I can only apologise.
Did OMM 'bottle it' at the last minute (he ws adamant that he was going after all)?
Only he knows the answer to that and it will be eating him up no doubt...
I, for one, would have held my hands up and given credit where due if he had attended, but he didn't...
Anyway, nothing changes regarding Rockfire...as we were...still in the 30's...same old, same old...yawn...
LOL @ OMM.
Haven't stopped laughing after reading your posts last night...I've just got this image of 2 posh blokes knocking six bells out of each other, much akin to Hugh Grant and Colin Firth in that film.
However, I wear glasses bud, and you wouldn't strike a man with glasses surely?
Maybe an egg and spoon race instead?
Shame that you have had to stoop so low with your comments as it is doing a lot of harm to your reputation.
I'm thick skinned and can take it, but asking for a fight is nothing more than school ground tactics...takes me back to my public school days when I used to get bullied by this short, fat arrogant kid with an ego as big as yours OMM...I just knew that we'd met somewhere before!
Might have to go to the AGM incognito now, or at the very least get some personal protection as it's quite obvious that I'm a wanted man...my anxiety levels are going up as I write this...
Let's see who turns up then shall we OMM ;)
I'm too jetlagged to respond to some of the tripe being posted by my nemesis.
We can settle our differences at the AGM tomorrow.
As I predicted a while ago, Rockfire is now back in the 30's and with the 'base metal bonanza bear market' now in full force, I'm afraid to say that it is likely to go even lower.
I see we have a Lazarus amongst us here...how prophetic, as Mr. P will need to create some sort of miracle at the AGM and beyond to stop the inevitable happening.
We're all adults and sh*t happens every now and then.
We've all invested into something that we wish we hadn't, regret has no sympathy for anyone, and hindsight even less so, but it's how you come out the other side, dust oneself down, that will determine whether you are just a dreamer or destined to rise like a Phoenix.
There will be other opportunities once Rockfire is a distant memory.
Learn from your mistakes, but most of all don't drown in your sorrows as "time and tide wait for no man."
Will post sometime after the AGM once I gather my thoughts.
Until then, stay positive, stay safe folks...we're all in this economic crisis together don't forget.
You failed to mention that Copper and Zinc are in a confirmed bear market OMM...precursor to a global recession and the worst possible scenario for Rockfire, so you will have a very long time to wait for things to turn in that regard.
The gold is your only chance, but with poor grades it will go unnoticed by the market just as it already has done.
I've already mentioned the best junior miner out there right now (with confirmed fantastic grades and a JV in place) which is based in Clontibret, Ireland, but please DYOR.
Jet lag kicking in so ciao for now...
P.S. can't wait to see OMM at the AGM (if he's still going that is as he's being very vague about attending)??