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A labour government.

Don't need to read anything. I've been in here since 2009. I know the game this bank is playing. The same game it has game it's been playing 15yrs or so. I understand there is an over supply and under demand issue that needs sorting. Just wish they would of passed on the excess PPI and the disappearing dividends of days gone by but they hadn't and the BOD are getting richer while the media are tarnishing the P.I. as the greedy ones. Anyhow have a nice Christmas. I'm out of here until the new year. ATVB everyone.

What I'm saying is £6 billion has done absolutely nothing for the SP. So another £20 billion might just move it somewhat. That's the truth and is a very viable nonsense at the least.

They've been penny pinching for years now, the BOD seem to be doing okay from it. It's questionable though an to wether or not the P.I. is.

Good luck with your investment your going to need it because financials don't ever seem to do this share price any justice whatsoever.

..... Of course there's going to be a huge buyback next year. It's going to take around 10 yrs of £2 or so billion buybacks to move the SP just 1 or 2 pence. Sure you might get a flux moment, but inevitably it's going to return to these lows all the while the BOD get more and more bonuses. Nothing will change until the shareholder holds the BOD to account. If the jam comes (which it won't for quite some time) then take it because this will turn to just burnt toast within days if not hours of reaching a high because those who have had their fingers burnt are just waiting for a good price above 50p to get out with a break even. That is why this price is stagnating because the MM's fear the stampede of an exodus.

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What is it so far?

£2bln buybacks X 3

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1 X divi disappeared into the nether

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No HMG owner shares

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Government influence still exists none the less through FCA, BOE and HMG policy and backdoor pressure (oooh err!)

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Misplaced excess PPI provisions.

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FCA capital retainment provisions X 5years

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Laptops to the needy select few.

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HMG Guaranteed bonus pay out for AHO and crew IF the price got from 23p to 63p. (Surprise, surprise the only goal ever achieved by the BOD EVER and the only time t think it ever got near that price)

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NOW venturing into HMG propping up the housing market, just when landlords can't get out quick enough.

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Many more instances and equations that I've since forgotten about in sure.

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An absolutely shocking treatment of shareholders with no positive effect on the share price (other than the AHO contractual bonus affair) and a constant tirade if "social media influencers" (that wouldn't surprise me if they were funded) duping even more people of their money with promises of "jam tomorrow".

Happy Christmas to you all. Peace and goodwill to all men, women, children, LGBT etc.etc.

And a prosperous new year to you all avoid Lloyds buy gold. Imho.

In its quest for truth, it's used "spin" (lies) and "forced narrative" (propaganda) to try and influence the outcome of multiculturalism.

I presume they originally planned to try and make us more acceptable of diversity which in itself was a great agenda and very commendable considering how we all were in the 80s. However the lack of direction the beeb has now, has driven the propaganda too far in the other direction, at the expense of the white natives of the country.

The "spin" and "forced narrative" began in the 80s with the cancellation of comedians. Now look at the state of comedy. It's not funny and everyone is taking the world too seriously. So everyone is getting angry at each other. Black people are now becoming "far-right" as there were some arrested in the Dublin riots the other day and the beeb stated "far-right rioters" (along with many MSM fact).

The world is going crazy thanks to the news/tv we are fed, the cancel culture we are forced and the lack of comedy we fear.

I can not wait for the day we all stop believing the labels, letters and acronyms they throw at us to keep us divided. Perhaps then we will all turn our gaze towards those that have avoided accountability for decades and make #WEFminster pay for it's corruption, lack of vision and representation for the people no matter what the colour or religion that elected them (if you have faith in the votes being counted).

Get them apples cheap while you can. Reduce the apple count in the basket so that when the market and our politicians return to the capitalist form this country was built on, we as shareholders will be in prime position. I estimate the return of our capitalist prime directive to be in around 6 yrs once we have witnessed another WEFminster government run by labour though this time. People will realise that it's time for real change so in enters Reform after taking 3rd position in 2024. Although I can see some shenanigans coming next year with both Russia and US elections perhaps Trump gets in after being released from prison just in time for farrage to become PM as leader of reform in 2028. Nobody would get good odds on this NOT happening I'm sure. Trump being in a comatose state but due to the case being b find to have been politically motivated against him he must be the president no matter what our something. Sounds like an episode of the Simpsons and we're know what they are like for predicting the future..... Buy them apples cheap Lloyds

W0W it's actually in the full article last paragraph, but W0W what a joke .... Especially reading the FT comment.

Lionel Barber, the former editor of the FT, has pointed out that the UK has allowed a convicted fraudster, Conrad Black, to own the Telegraph and the son of a former KGB agent, Evgeny Lebedev, to own the Independent and the Evening Standard.

But former Telegraph editor Charles Moore insists that the nature of those involved here - a foreign state alongside a Tory-leaning paper - makes these circumstances different.

Sheikh Mansour is taking a financial risk in wiring the money to Lloyds when it is unclear whether he will ever get to take control of the assets he is paying for, but as someone close to the deal said, that seems to be "a risk he's willing to take".

Call me cynical but....

If phrases like this don't make you PYSL then there is absolute no hope for you at all.

"regulator Ofcom, which will look at "the need for accurate presentation of news and free expression of opinion."

"Secretary of State, Lucy Frazer, did not feel it appropriate to intervene in a debt repayment transaction."

"Competition and Markets Authority (CMA), which will look at jurisdictional and competition matters."

So was the excess PPI fund they kept settng aside year after year, the divs that was cancelled by HMG about 3 yrs ago after they had been announced to the shareholders and let's not forget the FCA capital requirements that should also have been distributed wealth. .

In a nut shell don't expect anything other than this being swept under the carpet and a maybe a few thousand laptops donated to the homeless or something from this heavily government influenced company.

2.2 div. 2.2buyback not a guess just what it should be.

My point exactly.

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Just saying. Is this company in the same amount of turmoil?

How are Lloyds valued at the same price as Metro? This market is on its 4r5e.

I wouldn't bother with sharesoc. I'm sure they're on the same side as the FCA, BOE,HMG etc. waste of time in my experience. I think the UK markets are akin to the wild west. No law or control but they pretend to put a sheriff in place until he gets shot down by those gunning for a profit.

I've been waiting to dip my novice toes in here. Do I wait for consolidation or will the price rise on the notice of the bank being saved then consolidation happening? That's the question in asking here. Any input not so novice investors please?

I suppose one could argue that it's forecasting was deliberately skewed, due to all those luvies in London that declared "Brexit would be disastrous" for the country.

If they said it then at least they can try there best to make it look like they know what they were talking about and make their forecasts come true for once.

In worms and maggots we trust should be written on our bank notes. Or. This note guarantees you to be paid by some unelected civil servant who serves themselves over others.

Cancel culture is rife nowadays perhaps. People would rather walk around with blinkers on and pretend everything's fine in the EU and crap being outside of it. "Blind leading the blind" springs to mind. Don't worry it's inevitable, if there's one thing you can guarantee our cowardly political elites know when the battle is lost and it's time to run away, and how to pretend to the public that it was them who wanted it so as to avoid any accountability no matter what the outcome.