Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
WO2023161353 - SECURE CALL PROCESSING VIA PROXY
Applicant(s) For:
SYCURIO LIMITED
Pannell House Park Street
Guildford Surrey GU1 4HN / GB
Inventor(s) 01 / BALDWIN, Thomas J.
Fleet Hampshire GU52 7UT / GB
02 / BARNETT, Gary E.
/ US
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP23709125&lng=en&tab=main
31.05.2023 Written opinion of the ISA, supplemental box
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=LI2CNKF07U6JSK6&number=EP23709125&lng=en&npl=false
EP All documents: WO2023161353
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP23709125&lng=en&tab=doclist
Thursday, September 14, 2023
81 misc Sealed Document Thu 09/14 11:54 AM
Sealed Document ( Sealed - Attorney ): re:80 MOTION to Seal Document by PCI Pal; (available to PCI Pal (U.S.) Inc., Sycurio, Inc.) (Morrow, John)
80 motion Seal Document Thu 09/14 11:52 AM
MOTION to Seal Document by PCI Pal (U.S.) Inc.. Responses due by 9/28/2023 (Morrow, John)
https://www.pacermonitor.com/case/41847299/Semafone_Limited
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Processing Payments on a Call
As of late 2023, we are upgrading our PCI payment path to a new, modern infrastructure, bringing minor changes to the way that agents process payments.
If you already migrated to the new method, known as the Reverse PIN method, please follow the steps in the corresponding section below. If you haven’t migrated yet, please refer to the Legacy Method section.
4. Tell the customer to input their information on their phone’s dialer pad.
The encrypted information will be added to the PCI Pal webpage [3]. Once all digits have been added, the next field will be selected automatically.
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YALE MIDCO 3 LIMITED
13 Oct 2021 Registered office address changed from 100 Wood Street London EC2V 7AN United Kingdom to Pannell House Park Street Guildford Surrey GU1 4HN on 13 October 2021
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13451660/filing-history
SYCURIO
05 Sep 2023 Change of details for Yale Midco 3 Limited as a person with significant control on 13 October 2021
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06963868/filing-history
You must tell Companies House within 14 days if you make changes to:
the address where you keep your records, and which records you keep there
directors or their personal details, like their address
‘people with significant control’ (PSC), or their personal details like a new address
https://www.gov.uk/running-a-limited-company/company-changes-you-must-report#:~:text=You%20must%20tell%20Companies%20House%20within%2014%20days%20if%20you,details%20like%20a%20new%20address
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SYCURIO LIMITED
Accounts
Next accounts made up to 31 December 2022
due by 30 September 2023
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06963868
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Mrs Justice Bacon, here on the 22 September 2023, 8.30 am – 5.30 pm BST
Mlex - Competition Litigation Conference 2023
In its tenth year, the annual Competition Litigation Conference will provide an in depth discussion shaped by key rulings from the Competition Appeal Tribunal, High Court, Court of Appeal and Supreme Court.
The event features a host of prominent speakers, including keynote speakers Mrs Justice Bacon and Competition Appeal Tribunal Chair Ben Tidswell, tackling the following topics:
• Antitrust litigation — the year in review
• Subsidy control — procedure and case law
• Collective and other representative proceedings
• Brexit impact on litigation in and outside the UK
Hausfeld Partner, Lesley Hannah will join a panel on ‘Collective and other representative proceedings’, alongside Mark Hoskins KC from Brick Court Chambers, Ricky Versteeg from Freshfields and Tom Clark from Which?, moderated by Senior Mlex Correspondent Simon Zekaria.
Practical arrangements
This in-person event will take place on the 22 September 2023, 8.30 am – 5.30 pm BST, in the Auditorium at Freshfields in London.
https://www.hausfeld.com/events/mlex-competition-litigation-conference-2023/
SYCURIO LIMITED
05 Sep 2023 Change of details for Yale Midco 3 Limited as a person with significant control on 13 October 2021
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06963868/filing-history
YALE MIDCO 3 LIMITED
05 Sep 2023 Change of details for Yale Midco 2 Limited as a person with significant control on 13 October 2021
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13451660/filing-history
YALE MIDCO 2 LIMITED
05 Sep 2023 Change of details for Yale Midco 1 Limited as a person with significant control on 13 October 2021
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13451657/filing-history
Lucretuis
PCIP, have their own "Head of Delivery" so no chucking
ECB Level 2 Cricket Coach from England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB)
Charlie Scutt
Head of Delivery at PCI-PAL
Charlie Scutt has a strong background in delivery management and agile methodologies. Charlie most recently worked at PCI Pal as Head of Delivery, where they were responsible for end-to-end delivery and execution of the company's product and technology roadmap. Prior to that, they were a Delivery Manager at Deko, overseeing product and project delivery, as well as being a Scrum Master for multiple scrum teams. Charlie also worked as a Delivery Manager at Lebara, where they acted as a Scrum Master for development teams, facilitated scrum ceremonies, and championed Agile methodologies. Charlie started their career as an Operations Intern at Trade and Investment Queensland. Overall, they have extensive experience in driving delivery success and implementing Agile methodologies across various organizations.
Charlie Scutt obtained a Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) with honors (2.1) in Geography from the University of Cambridge from 2010 to 2013. Prior to that, Charlie attended Queen Elizabeth's School in Barnet from 2003 to 2010, completing A levels with grades A*AAB and achieving 11 A* or A grades in GCSE. In addition to their academic qualifications, Charlie has obtained various certifications: Certified Scrum Master (CSM) from Scrum Alliance in April 2016, Prince2 Foundation + Practitioner from PEOPLECERT in July 2015, and ECB Level 2 Cricket Coach from England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in July 2014.
https://theorg.com/org/pci-pal/org-chart/charlie-scutt
Event history: EP3402177
01.09.2023 Revocation of patent
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP18164715&lng=en&tab=event
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WG Grace caught on the wrong side of gamesmanship
Grace, in no mood to get out cheaply twice in the match, now decided to counterattack. He reached 40 in no time, and it quickly became evident that this was going to be one of "those" days.
So one Sam Smithson came on, and did not even pretend to bowl. He simply stood and threw the ball. Grace, left without any time to adjust, was clean bowled.
Unfortunately, the umpire had not bothered to look at Smithson's action either. So nobody got a chance to call Smithson for his action. By that time Grace had been bowled and the ball had been dead. They would call him if there had been an encore, but that would be only after Grace had left.
A fuming Grace had to depart. It was unfair, but Grace was the last person who had the right to accuse someone of gamesmanship.
https://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChat.html?ShareTicker=PCIP&share=Pci-pal&thread=395A85A9-02B4-4F3D-A0C6-B1170B22592A&reply=true
All documents: EP3402177
31.08.2023 F3324 Closure of the appeal proceedings: withdrawal of the appeal/ application/
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP18164715&lng=en&tab=doclist
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WG Grace: No Extra Runs As Wisden 'Corrects' England Cricket Legend's Glorious Records
As widely reported, Wisden has now fallen into line with the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians (ACSH), who have long questioned the status of several "first-class" matches played by WG Grace.
"The time has come to accept that the Almanack should be more concerned with record than romance," Wisden editor Lawrence Booth told the Times.
https://www.outlookindia.com/sports/wg-grace-no-extra-runs-as-wisden-corrects-england-cricket-legend-s-glorious-records-news-195662
Lucretuis
I have come to the same conclusion as Dentons
This part of 1.5 from Dentons Opposition Documents, appears in the three EU Patents below, that ECK & PCIP have attacked
1.5.. "It is submitted that the grounds cited in the Opposition are unanswerable and will inevitably result in revocation of the Patent in fall"
EP2286576
Page 8
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=LFCBQLT71MHG9W1&number=EP09742359&lng=en&npl=falseThe day
EP3402177
Page 12..1.5
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=L1YXXSNWNG0QJWA&number=EP18164715&lng=en&npl=false
EP3603043
Page 9...1.5
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=LJ6ROU85V2KPZDO&number=EP18715240&lng=en&npl=false
Did Byres try to respond to the objections to EP3402177, but ended up agreeing with Dentons
"that the grounds cited in the Opposition are unanswerable"?
Did Mathys & Squire, after trying to start a response (Mathys also with the benefit of being able to read the Grounds for the decision) come to the same conclusion
"that the grounds cited in the Opposition are unanswerable"?
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EP3402177.... Cited here
EP4226604 - SECURE PROCESSING OF SENSITIVE INFORMATION DURING A CALL
For all designated states
Sycurio Limited
Pannell House
Park Street
Guildford, Surrey GU1 4HN / GB
Cited in International search
[XD]EP3402177 (SEMAFONE LTD [GB]) [XD] 1,2,4-8,11,12,15-18 * paragraph [0101] - paragraph [0103] * * paragraph [0125] * * paragraph [0143] * * paragraph [0153] - paragraph [0159] * * paragraph [0186] - paragraph [0188] *;
[X]WO2019073216 (PCI PAL U K LTD [GB]) [X] 1,3,10,11,13,14,20 * page 6, line 5 - line 6; claims 1-11 *;
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21794916
14.07.2023 Request for examination filed
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21794916&lng=en&tab=event
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The day WG Grace walked
Grace’s decision to walk —perhaps the only time in his life — was a wise one.
https://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/the-day-wg-grace-walked-341544
Lucretuis
Also, Ronald Van Volkenburgh's Block comes to mind
Do Sycurio now go down the W.G. Grace route?
WG Grace quote
"They came to see me bat not you bowl" - WG Grace, putting the bails back on his stumps after being bowled first ball.
30 August 2023 Letter - Amendment (S75)
https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Document/ApplicationNumber/GB1020894.0/25b09e49-f4b0-4ae6-b36b-f5851e5b0ce4/GB2473376-20230830-Letter%20%20Amendment%20S75.pdf
"I would love to be a fly on the wall in Sycurio HQ"
leycrjb, no need to be a fly on the wall
"Furthermore, Sycurio have acknowledged that a number of their personnel, including senior product staff and board members, both internal and external, were involved in a board meeting during which Sycurio considered competitor technology and call flows, and that PCI Pal's confidential information "may" have been used in this session. This session also involved personnel from Sycurio's private equity owners, Livingbridge LLP.".....07 June 2023...RNS Reach
Also with Sycurio's tight security, you probably would C-Suite fa
Lucretuis
I don't think that this was in the plan when the Lawsuit was served 2 years ago
4. Enter "DEAD" and dispose of paper file
https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=LLUVHQDOS7XILOB&number=EP18164715&lng=en&npl=false
EP3402177 - SIGNAL DETECTION AND BLOCKING FOR VOICE PROCESSING EQUIPMENT
Applicant(s) For all designated states
Sycurio Limited
Pannell House
Park Street
Guildford, Surrey GU1 4HN / GB
All documents
28.08.2023 Composition of the board (T) Appeal 1
28.08.2023 Termination of the opposition proceedings with revocation of patent
25.08.2023 (Electronic) Receipt
25.08.2023 Letter accompanying subsequently filed items
25.08.2023 Withdrawal of an appeal
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP18164715&lng=en&tab=doclist
Lucretuis
Fantastic find. I have been looking since the Grounds Of Objection landed for something like this. Thank you.
Lots of good points
Picked out 9 for the line "That means that in advance of trial everyone knows where they stand"
Pci- Pal's First filing for Invalidity.....09 Nov 2021
From the trading update
"Investors are referred to the Company's patent case update included in its interim report released on 14 March 2023. Since then, the parties have exchanged expert witness reports and subsequently reviewed mutual responses to these reports"
9.."Clearly, if the amendment is proposed in sufficient time before trial the defendant has a full opportunity to attack the proposed amended claims, not only on their allowability or in the exercise of discretion, but on their ultimate validity. The existing procedure for an application to amend the patent specification is governed by CPR Part 63.10. The procedure is by way of an application notice, service on the Comptroller, subsequent advertisement and so on. The procedures can, in appropriate circumstances, be gone through quickly or gone through provisionally on the basis that probably no third party will ever come in to oppose. It may be noted that the rules specifically require by Part 63.10 that the patentee must state whether he will contend that the claims prior to amendment are valid.
That means that in advance of trial everyone knows where they stand.
The patentee is either saying that the original claims are all right or not, and he is plainly also saying that the proposed amendment claims are all right."
15 May 2023 Filing Grounds of Invalidity - Grounds of Invalidity
Added Matter
Claim 9
https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Document/ApplicationNumber/GB1020894.0/3262ff64-02f5-4c7b-9dd3-1cb0d584d331/GB2473376-20230619-Letter%20%20Agentapplicant.pdf
14 Dec 2022 Filing Grounds of Invalidity - Grounds of Invalidity
09 Nov 2021 Filing Grounds of Invalidity - Grounds of Invalidity
https://caseboard.io/cases/714a8942-da4f-4118-a1f1-a2c455281ac9
Lucretuis
Some room to move, as you rightly say. Will probably come down this from Richard Davis KC & Edward Cronan's
Grounds Of Objection.
"the amendment should be refused in the Court's discretion"
Interesting read
Section 75: Amendment of patent in infringement or revocation proceedings
Exercising discretion
75.04
The allowance of amendments is a matter of discretion and similar considerations apply as under s.27 see 27.07-27.11.1, 27.11 and 27.32. However, section 75(5) was added on 13 December 2007 and provides that in considering whether to allow a proposed amendment the court or comptroller shall have regard to relevant principles under the European Patent Convention (EPC) (see 75.21 and 75.21.2). Various judgments provide discussion of the exercise of discretion prior to the introduction of s.75(5). The extent to which these cases are now relevant is set out below.
In Smith Kline & French Laboratories Ltd v Evans Medical Ltd [1989] FSR 561, Aldous J identified the following principles concerning discretion as to whether or not to allow amendment
(i) the onus to establish that amendment should be allowed is upon the patentee and full disclosure must be made of all relevant matters;
(ii) amendment will be allowed provided the amendments are permitted under the Act and no circumstances arise which would lead the court to refuse the amendment;
(iii) it is in the public interest that amendment is sought promptly, so a patentee who delays for an unreasonable period before seeking amendment must show reasonable grounds for their delay; This principle is no longer relevant in light of s.75(5).
(iv) a patentee who seeks to obtain an unfair advantage from a patent, which they knew or should have known should be amended, will not be allowed to amend;
(v) the court is concerned with the conduct of the patentee and not with the merit of the invention. This principle is no longer relevant in light of s.75(5).
The exercise of discretion was also discussed by the Court of Appeal in Kimberly-Clark Worldwide Inc v Procter & Gamble Ltd ([2000] RPC 422). However, the intended effect of s.75(5) is that the old law relating to covetousness and delay is swept away and these matters are no longer an issue in post-grant amendment (see 75.21 and 75.21.1). This effect was explicitly confirmed by Floyd J in Zipher Ltd v Markem Systems Ltd & Anr [2008] EWCH 1379 (Pat):
‘It follows that if I am to have regard to the principles applicable under the EPC, the discretion which I have to refuse amendments which comply with the Act has been limited. Considerations such as those formerly considered relevant to the discretion, such as the conduct of the patentee, are no longer relevant.’ r.35(6)
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/manual-of-patent-practice-mopp/section-75-amendment-of-patent-in-infringement-or-revocation-proceedings
Lucretuis
Caseboard, tells us that it was 2 years yesterday when this was filed
Sycurio Limited v PCI-PAL Plc and others
27 Aug 2021...Case Filed
https://caseboard.io/cases/714a8942-da4f-4118-a1f1-a2c455281ac9
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4 months, is not enough for Sycurio to defend their European patents
1 hour
Patent amendments
6. How long do you think the hearing will last? (1 hour)
Is this time estimate agreed by all parties (no)
https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Document/ApplicationNumber/GB1020894.0/8cfe2fa1-f4f2-4f4a-ad90-6a2850a27a75/GB2473376-20230711-Court%20Application%20Notice.pdf
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Grounds Of Objection... Richard Davis KC & Edward Cronan
"Further and in the alternative, the amendment should be refused in the Court's discretion and/or as an abuse of the process of the Court, on the basis that it is too late. The Defendants have been prejudiced as regards; (a) their right to put forward evidence as to the invalidity of the claim as proposed to be amended; (b) their right to put forward evidence as to the objection set out herein; (c) the overriding objective. in particular regarding proportionality and; (d) the importance of finality litigation."
https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Document/ApplicationNumber/GB1020894.0/99626609-34b1-4cc0-91f9-6033db19a73e/GB2473376-20230823-Letter%20%20Agentapplicant.pdf
Amendment/limitation
of patents
The UK court considers the validity of the proposed amended claims
at the same time as it considers the validity of the claims as originally
granted, since it will be hearing the same witnesses and arguments about
the same prior art and other grounds for invalidity.
The patent proprietor must therefore make the application to amend
in sufficient time to permit the other party to prepare its evidence and
arguments regarding the proposed new claims. The amount of time
will depend on the complexity of the proposed amendments, but an
amendment application filed less than one month before trial is likely to
be too late.
https://e-courses.epo.org/wbts_int/litigation/Amendment.pdf
Not holding back here
7.. Further and in the alternative, the amendment should be refused in the Court's discretion and/or as an abuse of the process of the Court, on the basis that it is too late. The defendants have been prejudiced as regards; (a) their right to put forward evidence as to the invalidity of the claim as proposed to be amended; (b) their right to put forward evidence as to the objection set out herein; (c) the overriding objective. in particular regarding proportionality and; (d) the importance of finality litigation.
Strong arguments, from Richard Davis KC & Edward Cronan
Grounds Of Objection
23 August 2023 Letter - Agent/applicant
https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Document/ApplicationNumber/GB1020894.0/99626609-34b1-4cc0-91f9-6033db19a73e/GB2473376-20230823-Letter%20%20Agentapplicant.pdf
Richard Davis KC
Hogarth Chambers
Year called: 1992
Practice areas: Copyright & Design, Media & Entertainment, Trade Marks, IP, Patents, IT
“Richard Davis is a very strong and tenacious advocate. He’s a good man to get on your side.” Chambers & Partners 2023
“A barrister of choice for his no-nonsense approach, real understanding of patent law, approachability, and genuine interest in getting a good commercial outcome for the client.” Legal 500 2023
“His manner with the judge was excellent. His use of analogies was excellent, and built up the light-bulb moment for the judge. He is really pragmatic.” “Highly thought of and clever in the patent space.” Chambers & Partners 2022
“He is creative, has a very strong intellect and is good at cutting through excessive verbiage to get to the point.” Legal 500 2020
“He puts in the time and effort and leaves no stone unturned.” Chambers & Partners 2019
“He is extremely thorough and prepared to go the extra mile.” Chambers & Partners 2018
“Very good in patent matters.” Legal 500 2017
“He is very helpful, pragmatic and clients have a huge respect for him.” “He is a very user-friendly and very knowledgeable in the IP arena” Chambers & Partners 2017
Qualifications
MA (Cantab) Engineering.
Chartered Patent Attorney
European Patent Attorney
Chartered Engineer
http://www.hogarthchambers.com/barristers/richard-davis/
PROCESSING SENSITIVE INFORMATION OVER VOIP
Global Dossier: US202217717500
Applicants
PCI PAL U K LTD [GB]
Inventors
FORSYTH GEOFF [GB]; BRANCO CESAR [GB]; THORPE JAMES [GB]
https://register.epo.org/ipfwretrieve?apn=US.202217717500.A&lng=en
23.08.2023 Notice of Allowance and Fees Due
The application identified above has been examined and is allowed for issuance as a patent.
https://register.epo.org/documentView?number=US.202217717500.A&documentId=LLKX4KMZXBLUEX2