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But no one is tied in. If you think this co is doomed or that you can make more money elsewhere, sell. Regardless of whether it crystalizes a loss. If you don't trust management, sell. Selling at a loss should never be a deciding factor in whether you stay with a share. We are all here to maximise returns. We should be should be putting our money where we think it has the best potential. I have no loyalty to Nano and it owes me nothing. I dont expect BT or any other CEO to be worrying about my entry point or whether I make money or not.

"who is going to invest in a company where by a little of research they can find out that the CEO has misled investors? Who????"

Currently:
HL 60mln shs
Interactive 32.7mln
Halifax 13mln
AJ Bell 8mln
Lombard 42mln

You're clearly one us too :)

HH - Do you think paid for research involves the company influencing the analysis? The FCA might have an issue with that. Please educate yourself. Start by trying to keep your emotions in check.

v disappointing to see this chat descend into chaos since the settlement. It certainly seems some of you loaded up on the back of an independent report hoping for a quick return and when it didn't materialize have decided to blame the board, institutional investors and the same report (albeit, no longer independent 'obviously') for negligence, insider-dealing and pure lies. Not to mention, shock, a blatant disregard for us, the valued shareholder!!! Market makers also get accused of manipulation but if you look at the individual trades in this name they are typically private investor sizes. All a MM needs to do is check these chats for general sentiment and their job is easy.
One person got sentenced as a result of the GFC in 2007/8. Do you really think BT is going to get hauled up in front of a jury. Grow up.
I enjoy debate on the lse but it seems some of you should just move on. This stock hit 72p. A premium of 69% to the previous close. Most investors don't make that in a year. Who sold?

well said Tony

"There’s plenty of upside from here, we’re still only at a quarter of the MOEX valuation (excluding divs)."

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sorry, the 200-300 was Edison right? So not Nanoco. Not in their prospectus. If I'm wrong please send me a link. Appreciated.

sorry tbow but where does it mention $200-300 million ?

HH - I don't think ceo's typically lay out "models" for potential investors to choose from before investing. I'd be interested to know what "equity" value or "enterprise" value (or whichever way you value a stock) you had for Nano prior to the settlement announcement?

I'm pretty certain investors were not offered a "double or quits" bet? Either way it was oversubscribed. I'm not sure how we've been "betrayed" either. I'm thinking there may be another arena for all of your emotions and expectations rather than the stock market.

Didn't miss it. I was referring to the litigation period. Personally, I think there will be an encouraging rns coming in the future regarding other settlements. I don't think Samsung were the only company stealing our ip and BT has alluded to this too.

Surely there has been a "blackout" period while the litigation was going on preventing directors from purchasing shares?

Where does £75k come from for BT to invest? Why not £50 or $100k? If he bought £75k today and released an RNS on Friday saying we've signed "xyz" contract you'd be claiming insider dealing.

There are some great arguments and analysis on this board. And some truly terrible ones too.

so if anyone gets an increase in salary they should use it to buy shares in the company they work for or else it looks bad? When your pay goes up you often live a more expensive lifestyle.

But that's the thing, no one knows his personal commitments. Maybe he has an ex wife to pay for. There are plenty of bigger companies than Nanoco with board members holding zero shares. Agreed, if he bought it would give me some more confidence but perhaps he doesn't want any more exposure to Nanoco and diversifies like we do (I assume). If he doesn't deliver then he'll get fired and will miss out on 500k. That should be a good enough incentive for him without having to buy 70k worth of shares to appease this board.

Agreed BeC. As far as the directors are concerned, not putting money into NANO means nothing to me. Maybe they don't have anything to invest. Maybe they have their kids in a private schools. Who knows. BT's job is run the company. Not for a few weeks so that people on this board can make a quick buck. I don't understand why we are in a worse position than BT had told us? Nanoco is in a better position today than it was 3yrs ago when none of us knew Samsung were stealing our ip. Up unto that time we could have easily gone bankrupt and lost everything. That is never happening now.

"loam sell out on signs of weakness"? lol. They bought in 2017. The price has hit 8p during the last 6 yrs. The drivel on this board over the last 3 days is insane. I'm joining mattyboy. Hope some of you find a new spac or bitcoin miner to chase soon.

Thanks HarriM. Also noted there:
"a modest award for Nanoco, we would retain around 50%... rising to 80% as the award got bigger.."
"..the company has around GBP 36 million of UK losses to offset.."

ps, agreed Matty

so, LOAM sells <1% (still holds 20%) on 4th Jan and barely 24hrs later has some involvement in encouraging Nano to accept a settlement that according to most on this board was never an option? Seems less than unlikely.

I have reread most of the RNS since April 2020 and cant find a $/£ "lower range" number anywhere. If someone has this from a webcast or something I'd appreciate a link.. thanks.

We've all been talking about how BT has done well since becoming CEO. Lets stick with that till proven otherwise. Let the speculators trade. I figure he still has an ace up his sleeve...

"..success in building a revenue stream..." - we've just won a suit against one of the biggest manufacturers in the world. They stole out IP. They should have paid for it. THAT would have been the revenue stream all of us LTH were expecting.

amen Nanonano

How have LOAM "bailed"? They still own 20%?! Given they need to notify the exchange within 24hrs of any increase/decrease then it means they sold nothing on Friday by the time the stock closed up 33% for the day.

For the record, I'm a little disappointed by the most recent rns. But I've been here 7yrs. SO many numbers being speculated about and this board has gone crazy since Friday. I'll be waiting till we know the actual number.