RE: Ukraine /RR SMRs17 Dec 2023 21:21
That's the difference between me and you Cev, I didn't want any Ukrainian men or even Russian men to die for the advancement of America.
I would have preferred Zelensky to not have put Neo-Nazis in his National Army (Azov Battalion), Ukraine could have conscripted people at 18 for service duty/training, to have sought peace with the Western side of Ukraine even if that involved money, brokered peace with Russia and become a gateway between Russia and Europe, perhaps they would have had to give up Crimea for good, not tried to join Nato.
You can pick holes in my points, some will have worked some would have not, but Russia will probably keep the land they have gained, Putin has said he wants Ukraine demilitarised before they can talk about peace and you also have all those dead Ukrainian soldiers and people who never even wanted to fight.
The EU starting talks about Ukraine joining Nato recently is like waving a red flag at a bull.
You may also say Putin wants to take over Europe, we have seen his army is not that great in the Ukraine war, he hasn't put everything into the Ukraine war but he knows a war with Europe is stupid and he would not win it.
Putin said from the start, he did not want Nato in Ukraine (American bases on his borders), he wanted to de-nazi Ukriaine (probably a convenient truth he could use for his cause), to stop the killing of Russian leaning Ukrainians in the East.
So you are upset about Crimea?? Well he still has it and more, all Ukraine has is dead people now.