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the seperate parts and secured values, even incl debt covered from current secured deals should be worth significantly more. there wont be a beter opportunuity to acquire such a large client base.
what's the betting someone will knock on the door in the new year and offer us 20p thinking they are doing us all a big favour...when really they are just taking advantage of a below market price of 6p as 20p is still way undervalued anyway.
well that's it, i have plumped for another £20k but if this goes south, then as i'm expecting the deals secured to outweigh the debt owed, (even though that is agreed to be paid back over time), i might just consider buying them all out and sacking the lot of them and just bank the sales income from live contracts, ..so from 6p i fully expect upside or else.
hi
please could you clarify the answer as the monthly values don't add up for 24 staff nor that they equate to 1/3rd of that side..did you mean 240 staff?..how many are doing that volume please
if from memory a telesales might do 80-100k p/yr of which 30-40k would go to sales costs. then are you saying 24 people are doing what you mention every month or eas that nust for the october contract round and that eas based on 3-yrs worth of value.
sorry for my confusion but i am trying to figure current monthly run rate per sales person.
also i thought there were hundreds of staff but how does 24 staff make up 1/3rd of enterprise sales staff
and does yours make up 1/3rd of enterprise and there is corporate/EIC on top?
thanks
how many staff would be in your team that make up those numbers?
Thank you..finally someone who talks sense. It would be good to know my six-figure investment might not be completely dead in the water…if I can be convinced it is still an investable company I will consider buying more..
Please could you advise
As the market cap is just 4-mll and with the bank debt..is there enough profit being done to cover these costs?
What are the ave lengths of the deals going through?
If your side makes up 1/3rd what would you be sticking on the board each month.i.e is it 200k mth value for a 2yr deal and also what profit margin or percentage do you expect to be left after overheads?
With the loss of staff, do you see much renewals being taken away by them or is it being made up with what staff you do have?
hi..still in.. am not selling at a loss no matter how long takes.. at this price on a multiple of x4 (private) it equates to just a 1-mill profit...and as a plc say x10-20...thats not large either..so even if onky a fraction of what they did begore..the value today does not reflect take out value...so only see upside..,any less in price and i might buy it myself
well if it can go up by 7% based on three pounds worth of shares, it will surely rocket the moment someone spends one hundred pound.....50p here we go...prob just needs £1,000 to be spent.
well it has fallen so far i can only see more upside than down, unless it is about to go belly up or be sold, but in either case it would be still worth more than present share value..oh well time will tell.
at these silly valuation levels the income from closing up shop alone is more than the value and debt.
it must be on someones radar
5 percent up on the day...yeehah...only now need another 495 percent increase to breakeven
perhaps they are finally taking my advise and fine tuning their staff numbers to maximise what they already have..i.e get same retention with less staff.
What a load of TOSH! admin is for those that are unviable... this is just an undervalued share price... the fundamentals still have a large and valuable order book, a valuable client base with high retention rates and an experienced workforce...is it hard work getting the price up...yes......but the book value if sold tomorrow on it pure assets is considerably more than share price.
as the kitchen sink was thrown in to date, with a market cap of just 22mll but order book of 55mll less debt of 17mll must show as oversold.
client numbers are up, new revenue streams, enterprise profits returning to decent numbers,go live numbers are up and debt is reduced.
got to now be worth 60p+ for these reasons alone.
Hi time to put this to bed.
we have had big users where we have identified previous Excessive margins on current deals form new clients ..in effect blatantly ripping them off, but even then it was hard for our client (after taking legal advise) to prove misselling). This is because unless you have an agreement which states the TPI will only charge X and they have actually charged Y then it is very hard job to take legal...remember ethical and moral values don't come into it.
A TPI shouldn't be taking advantage with high fees, but having that classed as breaking the law and as a valid legal basis to claim is unfortunately not the same thing. Remember the majority of users think they are getting a Free or No charge Service any and the loa wont likely state margins (as there is no DIRECT charge to them), so it is really remains a case of buyer beware if they sign upto what is presented to them.
I agree, now they have skin in the game as many (incl me) have been asking so at least they can now focus on the costs not being wasted to ensure maximum FCF which will directly boost the share price. I would be buying lots on todays price if not already so heavily invested.
having just jumped in at 190 yes i am down, but with the div at 7+ and which seems quite safe, then any higher would bring out div hunters anyway as its already near the top of the ftse div list.
it touched 180 recently and whilst could go a bit lower, happy to sit back a - to me - has more upside to increase above 190 and when it does i will sit back and just bank the div each year...will it move between 200-240...probably but so long as its over 190 and i get 7 percent div i am happy teddy.
This must be a positive if Standard Life are increasing their stake. perhaps they see a higher chance of either share having bottomed, share ripe for mbo, share ripe for takeover? very interesting
ok so here it is. for my own TPI on their own websites comparison tool.
firstly if they intend to grow that area then yes it is good to be 2nd and 3rd rankings on google for compare business energy and small business energy prices, but useless if they are ZERO for the more common search terms business energy prices and business electricity prices and which are of use to both their SME and Corporate users....UTW pull your finger out.
on the compare versus my own full comparison live access, we also have haven and Dual both lower than their Hudson and engie but they didn't have them shown...UTW needs to address. BG was correctly listed at number one though.
i recall to be in 2nd or 3rd place on the above terms weren't cheap at say 30-40 each so you need to have a high conversion to make up for the numbers which dont filter through from an initial click into a sale. although if you keep them a few years it is a one off acquisition investment/outlay so a good ROI after year 1.
barriers to entry are low though as their are many white label off the shelf versions available such as what we use.
lets hope it pays off and if they make this part clear on the numbers/returns/outlay in say 6-mths time then we can clearly see for ourselves if the ROI was/is worth it.