Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
my bad, i made the mistake again of thinking people on this board were adults capable of civil discussion about a joint interest.
like you, i don't have answers, and like many I hope for some positive ones.
Don't see why you have to be a snarky little b*tch about it
It's definitely news, it's proof in some form that the company is solvent for a start off and when coupled with ABH's 'it's in their hands now' could mean a few of things, such as a trade sale, merger or something else that means people might see some money back finally, or at least access to what they own
Given that so many investors have mentally written this off and the last 3 years of almost radio silence it's pretty interesting. I've always been of the opinion they're on to something, and that ABH can actually get it to where it wants to be even though he's made some questionable/shady decisions on the way. Unfortunately his treatment of shareholders won't particularly bother the sorts of companies he's aiming to sell too, it's not their problem or their responsibility
We'll see. I'm very cautiously optimistic
Serious answer - as long as people are locked in, as long as it takes to resolve one way or another
It's a stupid serious question to which is there is a single obvious answer. Love how people sit here arguing as if there's any other option.
Ah it’s not new to me, I’ve been reading this board at least four years, just rarely see any point in contributing to the noise. After months of watching dougal talk to himself and now his insistence he knows something im curious as to why he’s not sharing when anything he knows isn’t bound to confidentiality ...
I notice you didn't reply to me Dougal. Are you more interested in shareholders like yourself seeing a return or playing stupid games on a message board?
Why don’t you share what you know dougal? Plenty of us LTHs deserve any significant news if it’s got some substance. Don’t really understand people trying to keep ‘secret’ information which any shareholder is privy to and they don’t know just because they’re not in the right group or whatever
‘but reserve the right to report any post that is libellous of me’
You can libel an anonymous username?
laughing that the left will ingest itself is a bit much. Isn't that precisely what the right has been doing for the last 3 years? Wasn't that somewhat illustrated by the catastrophic local election defeats the conservatives just had? Most western governments have some obsession with the middle east - an insanely complicated situation - not sure why Corbyn stands out more than most?
I don't understand how people can think conservatism will be the ultimate winner, reality tends to lean liberal as time goes on to sustain itself because weirdly enough people don't like listening to people who have no stake in their lives tell them how to live theres, hence an abundance of revolutions with different motivations over the ages. Thinking anything else is frankly delusion. People talk the talk but when faced with reality they rarely walk the walk. A lot of right thinking is born of a lack of education, and perhaps more frighteningly, a lack of empathy, and is frequently quashed the moment those people start to the reality the truth of how things work and the similarities they have with people oppose to the superficial differences.
And what does this have to do with WRES?
I'm gonna have to block myself
Jesus christ this board is getting worse by the day
from here on in i'm just gonna straight up block anyone posting ANYTHING that isn't directly related to WRES
looks like it's gonna be real quiet!
the point i was making that the SOLE reason Amit would mislead randoms at this point whilst delisted would be to drum up interest in a second pre-IPO, which no-one would be stupid enough to buy into!
respond with your brain not your knees
as long as it's accompanied with an intention to move to a market we can actually trade on easily!
i mean when it's actually worth trading haha
I will say this - it's hard to see what he gains from telling randoms (no offense meant) we'll be relisting if it's untrue. It's not like we can do anything anyway and if he's trying to hold up people pursuing him on a legal angle it's a pretty ineffective way to get that message out - not everyone tweets or broadcasts everything they're told. The optimist in me thinks them relisting hinges on the competition of something and that date in itself is pretty fluid and maybe partly outside of his control hence the delay, but with his track record who knows - it's just hard to see where he's coming from as it's hard to see people jumping on a second pre IPO - especially when the last one must have raised a pretty modest amount and wasn't followed by an actual IPO.
I don't get this in-fighting, amit's reachable, why don't one of you just confirm what Gilb is saying?Given we're not trading and no one in their right mind is trying to sell shares at this loss i don't know what people think Gilb has to gain from lying personally
products can be too cutting edge - it's the downfall of many new products in fact - onitor just doing what was said is plenty cutting edge and transformative - trying to cram in more would actually severely harm its growth IMO. Just like the 4g rollout, operators will be charging a premium for 5g for some time. it would actually make the onitor, should it materialise, prohibitively expensive for many and then it's over
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“The Cloudtag team has been developing a proprietary open architecture platform [SOFTWARE], which utilises third party devices [SMARTPHONE/WATCH/COMPUTER] to provide health data.”...
That doesn't say anything about 5g. It's entirely the wrong terminology. 5g isn't a third party device or a platform. There's not a single logical reason to cram a 5g transmitter in it. It would
- Drive the cost up
- Require a monthly data contract
- Drain the battery - the radio transmitter in your smartphone EATS battery, especially in areas with spotty coverage and...
- ....Require you to have 5g coverage - it will be decades until large chunks of the planet have decent 5g. It will probably be a decade till even the UK does. And when it comes to real time heart-rate monitoring how do you precisely account for dropped data? how can you tell it's a data error vs an emergency with 100% accuracy every single time? Data redundancy isn't something you want to be dealing with if this field.
- needless sidestep the radio transmitter phones already have and people are paying for the data for
- be complete overkill - 3g and 4g would both have adequately done the job and neither have ever been mentioned
- be entirely unnecessary when they can load up software on your phone which can do pretty much as good real time monitoring for detecting abnormalities without any live data connection beyond low-power bluetooth
- require much more server investment on their part to deal with the data
- Make no logical sense as you still need a smart phone (with its data connection) via bluetooth or direct wifi to use the device for more than a single purpose. Cutting the smartphone out the picture makes the device less useful - how would it communicate with you? Your smartphone can alert you if it loses connection to the onitor, and assuming it's collected the data is can silently upload it for you
Onitor, as is the case with many devices like this, is entirely designed and dependant on a smart device. They work in tandem with them to avoid duplication. In the case of those rare people without a phone, it can dock with a computer. If they don't have a computer it can dock at a medical center. Or even at a supermarket or pharmacy - which i believe would be part of deploying something on that scale. There's no situation where the device needs a LTE transmitter built in.
The last thing we want to do is drive the price of this unicorn of a product up. One of its biggest points is its low cost. Data is the true value, you're correct, but not at all the costs that building in a transmitter would bring.
there's no way in this universe 5G is anything to do with it - it's a struggle to think of a single reason why they would even try.
for a start off the power requirements and tech required would drive the price right up plus it's probably not a great idea having a modem strapped to your chest all the time. It makes even less sense when you factor in that a) this data doesn't need to be transmitted in real time and b) MOST people will have a more capable transmitting device i.e a phone already. And then you have the fact it hasn't yet rolled out and you still can't even get 3G solidly in some major cities.
One of the selling points of the onitor beyond the centralised data thing was the low cost, and it would need to stay that way.
i like to think that his 'immenently' (which he's admittedly been pushing for 6 months) is lining up with a spectacular reasoning for bothering to do it in the first place, and maybe gets delayed due to the logistics that come with it. Let's face it, a JV announcement with a large partner WOULD be massively transformative and was what everyone was always waiting on. I think i that instance CTAG could really bounce back
Whilst it's been a horrific ride, i genuinely do think if this is being guided the right way working with the right people that it has the same potential it always had. it was never a novelty product, and the plans talked about for its deployment only become more relevant by the day. B2B was always a better approach than B2C so i hope something's gonna happen finally. It feels at this point like if it was over it would already have happened. It's entirely possible to have a line of disgruntled ex-employees AND things actually be going well later down the the line, speaking from experience
Gives me longer to find more to put in Also, arguing on a message board about he said she said about something you’re 100% in of your own choice is about as futile a time as you can spend on earth. The very nature of message board is different opinions. Can we pack it in pointing fingers when things that are beyond any our control happen and doing I told you so. It’s getting old, especially when the forecast is so sunny
It's an interesting pivot, and one i can see legitimate value in pursuing.I'm going to take it all with large grain of salt though, we're still talking about Africa and every single problem before seemed to be about how hard it is to work in Africa. I'll keep an eye out but i will keep my expectations firmly on the floor as CC so far hasn't managed to make much ground over the last few years, but this direction combined with blockchain might actually have some legs given the license is already secured.I hope he at least shifts it back to AIM if it starts to make progress. Not a fan of the NEX approach at all and hard to see much trading going on whilst it's on thereDo we know for sure that the shares are in very short supply? Do we think there's some chance that the 10000000 sell was somewhat motivated possibly internally to bring some shares to market?Can you explain the 4m bit a little. I don't really understand what it's saying
That refers to trump. Please can we have somewhere where that ********’s name doesn’t come up. Please