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Even with ii. I thought you could, but certain brokers won’t allow it?

San

Sorry typo 2500+ debt securities

I didn’t address the potential. So VLRM current dilution is 73m shares and current valuation moves around the 30m mark. Once the gsx deal goes through, 250+ debt securities can be tokenised immediately as they are currently sat on the GSX currently. Now add to that the existing Juno clients to that and you get a significant amount of product. Now I imagine may fledgling companies will want to host in gib to take advantage of the huge liquidity through crypto, so it will promote itself. I imagine that VLRM will hunt for other exchanges to link up with gsx so the web will get bigger. Bahamas perhaps (Patrick loves the Bahamas I hear).

I can’t give an SP prediction as the amount of revenue through 24/7 trading could be eye watering… remember also the 25x fin tech PE average ratio

San

So in a nutshell valereum is looking to become the first company to develop an exchange that will allow securities like shares and debt funds to be traded with crypto. The premise is that an exchange will host tokenised securities so that they can be procured and sold in both crypto and fiat currency

VLRM started on this journey earlier in the year when they confirmed they were looking at this and initially they were going to NFT VLRM shares to prove the concept. They brought onboard blvinay Gupta mattereum tech that would enable bundling of theses securities with unique ownership (map passport). Then came the game changer and the hiring of Patrick Young. Patrick has a wealth of knowledge in running an exchange and it meant that VLRM strategy would change to move to hosting their own exchange.

Gibraltar seemed like the best location so Hassans were hired to look at assisting with regulation discussions with gib digital asset minister. The next step was to notify share holders that they had agreed an option to 80% ownership of the GSX and 30% of GSX group. This meant that gatenet would be included in the discussion. Gatenet is the tech that can assist in tokenising the asset.

Scratch to yesterday and confirmation that we are purchasing a fund management company that has a wealth of experience in administration and management of crypto funds.

So in summary, we have the security tech, we have the blockchain tech, we have the management and administration of the funds when on the platform and we are close to signing the platform…signing the gsx deal means fulll regulation in GIB. Any current hosted funds will be covered and can be traded 24/7 with crypto

San

You wonder if some statements on the market moving on this forum is from traders who actually don’t have L2. I’ve read some posts where the complete opposite is happening??

San

Behave, you havent got any... stop trying to fool everyone

San

True day traders don't need to ramp. You just need L2 and be able to read it. Make the 5, 10, 20% and walk away. Keep your investment pot separate. Rampers are mainly those who bought in high and are trying to get an exit back to profit or reduce losses

San

dessert*

I can buy you lunch as well if you want crawshaw. I might even push as far as desert

San

Yup lovely trade on this today. Bought in at 47 and again 50 and dumped it at 56. Think it will see significant swings like this due to uncertainty on when news will drop. Good to have a trading and an invest pot to hedge your bets :)

San

A lot on here to be honest. The valuation is driven by the supply and demand at the moment. When GDR post a sales agreement, the valuation will have to reflect that future revenue generation and a rough PE ratio on top. This could drift back down on no news, but that just means the size of the rise on a sales agreement will be significant, unless the agreement is to sell 20 kits to the local market. Its pretty basic economics to be honest.

San

You get what an agreed sales contract is right...That will make the share price explode, dependent on size. It means confirmed future revenue.

San

So you dont think an RNS with sales agreement wont drive the SP significantly North... Have i read that right? If i have then you clearly dont understand MCAP valuation and PE ratio on future growth (sales contracts agreed). If i read that wrong then as you were :)

San

There are better ones, but not going to cross ramp here. Check my postings if you are interested. This has a fantastic upside once the traders go and the dust settles from the CERT RNS. A deal will push this significantly higher as the mcap will need to reflect that deal agreement plus a 5 - 10 x PE ratio

San

I get that Monk but remember that a pump and dump would require a significant sell off and that is not happening, Regularly buys are outstripping sells, but the MMS know they can shake more shares out on uncertainty. If you look at the pattern over the last few days, the MMS were happy to drop on small sells whilst maintaining the same level on the ASK, even with big buys coming in. The SP is simply drifting to reflect lower volume. I'm in agreement with communication needing to improve and i have never signed up to the NDA position (I thing that's BS personally); I try to be honest in all that I do relating to investing. However, those small negative points are outweighed significantly by the investment case here. Its very simple for me... Will the company be worth 23m when we have a digital trading platform set up and revenue coming in from token trading... No chance. If this isnt in the £'s by that point then I will streak through the streets of Cheltenham, and nobody wants to see that

San

I get the communications bit and have always advocated that i think we need to see a plan on what is being delivered and rough timeframes (Can be next year or quaterley). This plan should also provide some indication on the spend profile.

I would query your use case point. There are significant use case here when looking at a bridge between the worlds.
- Leverage against bitcoin
-Accessibility to securities with crypto
-New revenue streams
-diversification of portfolio whilst being "within the Crypto sphere"
-For new companies it allows a way to improve liquidity floating on a market that is exposed to both regular investers and crypto space
and many more i imagine

With regard to NFT creation, that cant really happen until the bridge is completed as you need a hosting platform. Would advise you watch the interview that the Gatenet CEO posted as he spoke about Velereum and multiple exchanges that they are working on. He mentioned regulation/licensing which is the key point here. The only reason I believe we haven't heard on the deal is because of getting the regulatory approval to proceed. The deal and its regulation approval will mean that effectively anything currently floated on the GSX can be tokenised and traded and anything in the future that register in Gibraltar too (Point about new companies and liquidity above). Remember that there are already 2500+ debt securities that have passed regulation to float on Gib.

As said all of this takes time and i believe the rewards will be significant when it happens.

San

Apologise if the below was abrupt KGR but its difficult to interpret whether you are having a moan or being serious when you dont believe there is an investment case here. This all takes time and people need to be patient. There will be pumps and there will be dumps, but the fundamentals / investment case shouldnt have changed for you. If people were investing for a get rich quick approach then suggest moving to crypto. In business, agreements on buyouts, regulation, product delivery, contracts etc all take time so just sit back and chill. Im expecting news on deal this side of Christmas and a fully regulated platform by April/May next year... All in my opinion. To be honest i couldn't careless about the OTC as i dont think that will offer much by way of movement, but all good if that happens

San

No chance you are a shareholder as you have written "nothing positive or anything to invest in". Its a shame that posts arent vetted on here to ensure that a structured argument is provided be that positive or negative. Im happy to take this on.

1) The appointment of Patrick Young who has run huge exchanges and has written successful books on the financial sector and tech. You know the chap who is friends with the chairman of the nasdaq!
2) Vinnay gupta Map tech. An agreement to use this as a way of confirming authenticity within a bundled tokenised security. You know Vinnay he was one of the leader coordinators on the deployment of the ethereum blockchain!
3) The option to buy 80% of the gib stock exchange which has 5 billion worth of debt securities hosted on it and a revenue value of $12.8m. This will form the basis for our digital trading platform. This gives us a link to gatetech and gate tokens to link to the blockchain/crypto world
4) The level of dilution is low and the warrants are at 80p.
5) Cash in the bank
6) although insignificant, miners giving us around 11k every 6 weeks on bitcoin

The declining share price is due to low volume as the buys have outstripped sells for most days. The market makers know that they can shake out the weak and make a market at a lower point. Most of the demand has dried up as the hardcore investor base here is significant. I am not far off 1 million shares and couldn't care less on the SP movement as ive stopped trading this and am happy to wait for significant news. Significant news will be the hosting of the first tokenised security that has passed Gibraltar regulation and is sat being traded using Crypto at midnight on Sunday.

But yeah nothing to invest in here... Give your head a wobble

San

Very low to be honest. I think it was already agreed on issue. It’s about regulation, but that’s the gib gov to do their bit. I can’t see them rejecting anything as they have already confirmed they want to be the blockchain capital of the world. That’s significant revenue to them

All my opinion obviously

San

For those getting worried, its very simple. The current market valuation for VLRM is 23m and the current revenue for GSX is $12.8m as per zoominfo. When you work out the revenue in £ and take 80% you get £7.68m. Now the average fintech PE ratio is x22, so that means on deal the true valuation is £168m. Obviously we need a better understanding on the deal and the revenue figures, but 23m current valuation will be laughable.

San