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Deffo something funny going on as these miners should be motoring, not down, the way gold/silver are rising today. Like you indicate, have read that one or two banks are caught in a short squeeze and are trying to suppress gold it by manipulating silver and the miners after being unable to hold back gold itself.

Tornadotony's posts have scared everybody off.

https://www.ii.co.uk/analysis-commentary/10-stocks-generated-simple-buffett-inspired-strategy-ii510367

Gold/silver well up today, HOC, CEY hardly moved. Don't hold any of the others you mentioned. No where near the price they were when gold/silver was lower.

Is this what’s caused this to fall today? This and the other miners hold extremely frustrating to hold? When are we finally going to get some big, meaningful moves that actually hold?

Thanks Bob. I undertand the mechanics of essentially spread betting, but I didn't know the part you explained about how losses are covered, but I do now. Very interesting but deffo not for me!

Centamin – Endeavour deal off, ups dividend, shares down. BUY

Worth a read if you're a subscriber.

https://www.*************.com/views/46852/centamin-endeavour-deal-off-ups-dividend-shares-down-buy

Finally, a decent mining RNS where the share price actually goes up - but will it hold?

What I can never understand with these shorts is how they determine peoples liabilities and how thay can afford them? If I buy a share in Centamin for £1.20, then that's all I can lose, but if I short Centamin at £1.20 then how much can I lose now? How does nayone know if I have the money to cover the short? I know you can have stop losses etc, but what happens if a share gaps up or down massively on open and the stop loss has been impossible to cover at the price you asked for?

And now the share price gets its butt kicked.

The Baron like it. I expect the share price to come back mind.

The share price. Let’s finally hope for a big upward movement.

Well said Olderandwise

Article on Sharep......ts today entled, "Centamin – 2019 production numbers missed; a sell? Er, no….." if anyone missed it.

..... that was an ominous sign when it took multiple attempts to break through £1.58 then sliced back through it straight away? Never thought we’d be back here in mid 140’s. Dividend announced, iron ore up, hopefully good update to follow..... what is going on here?

Talk on Sky News now that the plane was brought down by a missile.

*much of a move to my mind

I'm not so sure it did. If you were lucky enough to buy at the yearly low and sell low to mid 180's you made a couple of quid but that's not much of a to my mind seeing how gold has moved.

Doesn't matter. Gold price up Hoc down. Gold price down, Hoc down. Surely we're not going down to test yearly low with gold above $1500 an ounce. I wish someone could explain what is going on here? It must be a but at these levels.

Makes you wonder why they even bother with a dividend.