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I hope the continued decline isn't a sign that hedge funds haven't shorted the stock again.

Interesting given the £3b wiped off the company that they will still pay over the top bonuses to investment ankers. They shouldbe using this to pay dividends.

Each time Barclays reports its the same result. The markets digest and clearly find BS and the share dives. Great at spinning just before setting aside larger bonuses for themselves. Despite upgrades down almost 10% in a few days of trading. Thoughts on the next few days.

Same story day in and day out. Just the biggest drag on the index and those taking the cash month in and month out seem helpless in stopping the slow but sure decline. When there is a market correction how low will this fall and what has to be done to stop the dive.
Most excuses are gone and every day that should bring hope brings more frustration.

All the excuses given in the past are slowly being eliminated. Countries opening up travel
Airlines slowly but constantly on the rise
Rolls Royce Dumping plc competition is in the Blue and rising
Yet those of use taken in by this company can only sit and wonder where the future will be.
No matter what good news there is out there this continues its path of red
Over a 90% drop in share price in less than 2 years and those running the charity are still there and getting bonuses. How is this possible. Worst gamble ever.

Given the results beat expectations why the slide. Getting worse by the minute. Each time the results come out it seems to be the same outcome. This should have risen another 5% today not fall 7%

Is this just profit taking. Again great results end in share drops. Bounce had better hurry up.

Happy to enlighten

I have 20000 shares in my SIP at an average of 108.5
I also have 20000 cfds at an average of 107.4
Not a large number but large enough to be concerned especially with CFDs of course the SIP is long term. CFDs are not so when the price goes from bad to worse its a worry.
My point is that anyone should be free to comment. If there are those not holding then one would wonder why bother. The small number of shares we have does not impact the markets in any way. Let people have their views. Surprising z lot of posts agree that thus is a good long term hold, some that it will come good sooner and a lot who believe the company is in trouble and are frustrated watching every piece of good news turn the share price further south while the market recovers. If you don't like the comments just skim over and read those you agree with but people should be able to share opinions frustrations hopes and forecasts without fear of being personally ridiculed.

Again the element with the snowflake mentality of simply filtering those with opposing views. Cant cope and get offended so filter and lash out. I worry about them as they have to shut out anything that opposes them and encourage others with the same mentality to do so also. Unfortunately little substance offered re RR apart from to say come back on 5 years and it will be different. One has to laugh. Rolls Royce is currently drowning but they can't see it. The markets are recovering, airlines on the move up, travel openings getting closer yet the stock keeps going down 9 days out of 10. Could it be because the wider areas of the business are also in the same position. For everyone on the board have your say, tell it how it is, speculate on the future if you want and for the I'm constantly offended enough to filter you crowd go ahead. I personally don't care as you don't matter to me and if i don't like what you write i just move on. Some cant help but be offended which is clearly the case if they filter views. At least acknowledge when wrong. Predictions of 110 120 130 135 have all been proven rubbish by the market getting more like 125 120 115 110 105 100 etc etc. Watch and see but stay in the room and don't assume that just because a blogger posts an opposing view they know nothing about investing. There is also day trading and short term trading. Not everyone is wanting to wait 5 years. Seriously get a grip. When the markets turn then brag but until then eat humble pie.

RR share price was declining week on week for months before the pandemic. Its either going to be the best recovery share in years or will continue until rescued yet again by the government Clear that competition is winning out. Not sure what else those running the company can do. If they have been at the helm of the 90% to date what will change. Hope it does but unsure what they can do apart from keep asking for cash and diluting value more. More surprising is that there are no takeover rumours if its so cheap. Wouldnt there be a queue to buy this gold mine if the future so cheap. Business as usual for RR means £340m a month is blown until it either runs out or luck changes. Thoughts??. Not saying sell but unsure what will change the fortune of RR. Airlines are not the only part of their business but if anything looked positive shouldn't the price be moving up. After all others impacted by Covid are on the rise while RR is still in the red most days.

Rolls Royce - Rolls-royce And Dhl Express Sign Totalcare Agreement For A330 Engines
Rolls Royce - Agreement Will Also Cover Any Trent 700 Engines That Are Added To The Dhl Fleet In The Future.

And given the way its burning cash may well do so again. Just the worst company on the FTSE 100 by a long long way. The optimists will say they have received enough charity from shareholders to keep it going until 2022. Just around the corner and then what. Cant compete with peers and no sign of any recovery for RR whilst all others around it are recovering.

The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] reported first-quarter revenue of $15.2 billion, primarily driven by lower 787 deliveries and commercial services volume, partially offset by higher 737 deliveries and higher KC-46A Tanker revenue (Table 1). GAAP loss per share of ($0.92) and core loss per share (non-GAAP)* of ($1.53) reflect year-over-year KC-46A Tanker improvement, higher 737 deliveries, and lower commercial airplanes period costs, partially offset by lower tax benefits and higher interest expense. Boeing recorded operating cash flow of ($3.4) billion.

Ignore the " Im always offended group". They lash out at anyone they disagree with. Snowflake mentality. If you don't share my views I will criticise you personally and filter to avoid the pain of being further offended. They feel their perspective is right and even when the share price is slumping they still slate and defend by saying this is long term hold. Of course but not everyone is a long term investor and has the right to comment. I dare say that there are probably only 5 or 6 posts they can see as we have all been filtered but at least they won't be offended. As for RR its clearly the worst performing share on the FTSE 100 in years and if its to come back those running the company need to pull their finger out and inspire confidence in the company. Sorely lacking and lagging behind peers day in and day out.

Taking its position as the worst performing shares of the day
Time for those building this up to
Curb your enthusiasm. I day of rises is nothing to get excited about. The pattern continues where the gains are quickly gone and its the Dag of the index.

Over 22% drop in a few weeks. Now in its 90s and what next. One thing for sure is that this could keep falling as there is nothing coming out of RR that is helping investors and as much as there is so much hype on the future its not being bought into and rightly so . If it was the price would be rising. Perhaps they need to stop burning cash until things return to business as usual.

ARSENAL . You finished with Bye. Sorry to see you go. I enjoy reading your posts but I understand if you are unable to deal with views other than positive utopia views this is your coping response. Good luck.
People don't just stop posting because of the snowflake I'm offended approach, closing your eyes and hoping they go away. It's my opinion and ill share it if I want to. If some are childish enough to filter do so, its a modern day coping mechanism so I understand. If your offended then you need to deal with it. Its not hard just present facts that re RR and I am sure if accurate they will be acknowledged by someone with mord shares than me who can actually impact on the SP. To date this has not happened. Surely they would all be diving in given the optimistic outlook. I hold only 20000 shares so small fish but concerned. Of course who doesn't want to see their shares rise but seriously 1 or 2 days in a month is concerning. Of course come back in 12 months when you have some runs on the board and the price is moving up and you can say I told you so. Would love to be told. In the meantime I guess its hopefrom us all but current reality from some

Yes it was98 p but where has the FTSE, peer sector, airlines and anything of any potential value on the stock market gone since then. RR dumping plc has been left for dead so going back to 98p would be like taking IAG back to 1 30. And why focus on how low it was. It was also 1.30 and has dropped over 20% on good news
Not sure what news will make a difference. If there was any its non airline business was not impacted, vaccinations rolled out, travel industry bouncing back and in particular airlines recovering as border reopen, why is this junk stock continuing to fall. More importantly what are those running the charity spending over 350m a month on. Money we will never see again. May as well start a crowd funding page next to see how many more get ropped in. Good to be vocal when commenting on the current. Its a junk stock. When it changes and there's hope feedback will change but no point simply looking at all the good things RR is doing when there is no confidence in the company hence the constant sell off. Feel free to come back with facts on how its even keeping up before talking about the future. All the markets need is an overdue correction and this will sink given its inability to grow with the markets. And don't use the usual im offended feedback of if you feel that way leave. This site is not just for those wanting to paint a rosy story so deal with it. Its only 1 opinion and I don't influence the SP.

No one needs to sell but would you stay on the ship when all you are doing is bucketing out water to stop it sinking. The concern is that those running the company are not able to negate the sentiment out there but still seem happy to burn away cash with no workable plans except to ask the govt to intervene with steel concerns and possibly ask shareholders for more capital raising which will render the comoanh well and truly junk status given debt. Cant see people being as conned as last time with share offers. Seems like it was badly managed well before the pandemic and this has just sped up the process. Re the comment of how to survive into 2022 indicates the most likely outcome will be govt ownership. Dont expect after paying wages and bonuses there will be much left in the charity bucket. I expect they will pay out bonuses in some format and then ask for more from donors and who is going to keep giving them money to burn.
On a positive note. It may stay blue for a rare rare event

What is the likelihood of the govt taking control with a bailout. The longer this drags out and the inability of those running the company to steer the ship out of dangerous waters means all they can do is again ask fot more money from shareholders to flitter it away on stagnant areas of the business and keep themselves in jobs. The capital raised will be gone with nothing to show for it. I know they still have some of our money left but this will be gone soon and what then. Flights looks long way off getting back to normal so where to from here.