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Yes Lh, you are right that both 4 & 5 ply masks need testing separately to gain individual certification.
Again, agree selective rubbish reporting as per batch testing! We don't know why the tests were abandoned after the breathability tests failed.
The P2F mask tests were carried out on masks produced on the P2F line at Lemu & so....can we assume that since that line is now boxed & ready for shipment that both the 4 & 5 ply masks have already passed EN14683 & the test results are known for both plys?

Hi Lottohopes...thanks for your post.
I read the RNS to understand they would be producing the 4 ply for January & then ramp up to the 5 ply in February?
I don't get how they were testing both the 4 ply & 5 ply together to gain certification for EN14683 but the 5 ply failed breathability. Now, the BOD are saying the certification results for the 4 ply will be January & 5 ply February! Surely both plys take the same tests?

It will be interesting to see the dates on the test certificates!

Forgive my maths but the machine production when fully operational is 5,000,000 a month & so 500,000 is 3 day's worth of operation? So, if the machine gets shipped on the 4th Jan & delivered by 8th Jan, they have 15 days (plus maybe weekends) to get it installed & operational to produce January's quota.

I think they have passed & not sure why the BOD are saying 'results due Jan/Feb'! They were testing the 4 & 5 ply at the same time & so in my view they already know the outcome of the testing!

From RNS's:
Factory Acceptance Testing of the machine is due to take place later today, alongside this testing there will also be a batch of masks produced for certification purposes.
* certification is required for the production process and so separate certification processes are required for P2F's and Volz's production. Certification is now expected to be completed in the first week of January in both cases.
'the Company has now received and reviewed the detailed report on the new production line. The report indicates certain areas of the line that require refinement prior to delivery, including the process by which the machine is adjusted for different input materials. These adjustments are expected to be completed during the next week alongside the final component finishing work'
'While the machine was ready for loading as expected on 24th December'

If P2F used the machine whilst still at Lemu for producing masks for certification, we know the 5 ply mask failed breathability & some minor alterations were needed. If the machine was all boxed up ready for shipment on the 24th December, can we deduce that the minor alterations to the mask/machine were successful & subsequent masks produced passed certification to standard EN14683? If they haven't or as this recent RNS suggests the results are due in a few weeks...what if the masks still fail? I can't see P2F signing off a machine from Lemu if it's going to require further modifications in Nottingham due to the masks still failing EN14683

Sent email to Jonathon supporting Dr Gareth Cave

Is like the government wants a car that can fly & P2F has said, we can make an aeroplane!

I do not do know

indeed so! :)

@hinkais - I don't wish to know about your wedding tackle ;)

@Hewhodares1...cheers mate! :)

indeed...how much do professional...or amateur....derampers get paid?

Genuine question...how do you get a job as a paid deramper as I'm looking for a job at the moment

I'm not seeing facts...please share with this BB your FACTS that the shipment will be delayed

Any driver on Christmas overtime + bonus

yes plus updates from the citus & chilli markets.....I'm more excited than a dog with 2 richards!

Looks like the night shift have arrived...hi George273 & Realism79 have a lovely evening on this RMS BB! :)

@Iguana - glad we didn't get 10p worth, lol ;)

Yeah, like a Gumball Rally!! Everyone drives down to Spain, put as many components as they can into the boot of their cars & hitails it back to Biocity!!