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Zero financial risk? You’re having a laugh right?

Kooba they’re were 47 challenges at PTAB on 5 patents not 47 patents as you seem to suggest

Anyone brave enough to post their average price per share just out of interest ?

In my SIPP I’m at 20.0416pps

In my ISA it’s higher at 26.4991pps

I’ve traded over the years and have made some decent profits in both but the data above is a snapshot of my current position.

All subjective

That’s your opinion Troublesome - not saying it’s wrong but it’s still your opinion and we don’t know for sure what really happened and even if BT went into it in detail I doubt anyone will let him off the hook. Not before the SP recovery on the back of orders anyway.

.....but you ignore the flip side to the whole argument. You ignore time and value of money, you ignore risk, you ignore fair value settlement. It's like Bullseye .....lets focus on what you didn't win and ignore the fact we have a financially underpinned company with validated IP and no more legal worries save for perhaps further negotiated settlements with other infringers.

It would have been very high. A huge spike. A false spike in reality and it wouldn’t last and you’d have to be quick to profit from it and that’s irked people that they feel they were denied that opportunity.

I understand that frustration. But I also understand the risks associated with the case, the win, the appeals etc and prefer a more stable company than one stuck in legal battles with Goliath.

Q. Supposing we had gone to trial and 'won' $750m in damages based on the vaunted 3x multiplier.....how much money would there be guaranteed on the books?

A. $000000000000000000

Instead we'd be facing years of legal wranglings as Samsung appealed. And there would still be risks at appeal.

Meanwhile we'd face more financial challenges, more loans in an increasingly expensive environment, or a rights issue(s) all of which would undermine the health of the company and our investment.

That's assuming we won at a Jury trial AND were awarded what we 'think' we are due.

We could say but we'd only have to wait for the commercial orders to come in but they are not guaranteed either.

No one has discussed the value to time and money recently but the settlement was always there as a possibility as BT often said - for fair value.

Of course everyone reading this knows all of this, it's just that some choose not to accept it. What people wanted was a $750m win and to sell their shares at the top and consider themselves the smartest investor in the world....whilst ignoring all the other ramifications of that 'win'

If there’s substance then the company will be duty bound to respond appropriately. Time will tell.

Can’t promise I won’t continue to argue against so yes I’ll be debating by default!

Enjoy the play. Mine are finished up here for the summer so it’s about filling their days now…..thankfully the weather has been playing ball,

I’m a busy person Kooba and I don’t spend too much time here tbh.

I prefer constructive discussion of course but sometimes it’s not easy with limited time to get one’s point across which is why I prefer to be ‘efficient’ and ‘direct’ which I appreciate won’t be to everyone’s taste, particularly those in the crosshairs. I’ll endeavour to shoot less from the hip.

In relation to ongoing matters I trust my instincts. Until I see a compelling reason for change I’m not willing to debate the merits of the action TH is proposing because I don’t think it’s the right course of action just now and I simply don’t trust the motives behind it.

The site must have a bug as LSE has somehow altered the message I typed, removed a few letters here and there and anything in CAPITALS for some reason!

koob 1. i said "i’m not engaging with you on personal matters any longer"

this discussion wasn't personal. i don't want to continually have these prejudiced fallouts ad nauseum as its counter productive and bores the **** out of everyone.

i just looked at first light (albeit briefly) and it looks very interesting. we need more of these types of technologies as we face a fight to save the planet. i'm behind the rollout of smr's but they too are taking a long time to crystallise despite the technology already being in use in submarines. which is why i was accusing you of being deliberately obtuse as you must know being invested here that the runway is long and there are delays out with nanoco's control. it's emerging technology which (we are led to believe) is at the cusp of wide scale adoption so why now are you making comments such as "what has been the strategy of the company since inception? to commercialise the technology they have developed …have they ever received commercial orders for their technology ??" when it's entirely possible that these 20 years has enabled like stm and apple to begin their own product development using nanoco's technology as an intrinsic enabling component? i suspect you have your head down the rabbit hole tm has created

Kooba we’ve all watched tomorrow’s world and marvelled at the future. An example- Limitless free energy from the same nuclear reactions in the sun aka the tokamak ……why oh why hasn’t it been adopted yet?

How about when they previewed the mobile phone? The microwave? Colour TV?

You are deliberately obtuse. Or stupid. It can’t be both.

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Anusol

Nanostory you show me a product that uses any tech of this type just now? (Excluding display)

What’s the point spending money advertising a niche product though? It would be a waste. Better targeting direct contact through long established network with the client in my opinion for a product of this type.

Further up the supply chain you go the less advertising is required and the real marketing to drive demand needs to be focused on the end products so if we’re talking about headsets that means STM to market their sensors in a similar fashion to Apple as Nanoco to STM. Then Apple needs to market heavily the benefits of the overall product to the consumer so the chain works effectively.

How? By forcing the adoption of Nanoco’s technology? Typewriter salesperson not required here thanks.

So just what exactly is it you are going after the board for? A phone call or a settlement that disappointed your expectations or alleged miscommunication about the outcome potential?