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Ok here’s my research

Coeur Mining is an American company listed on the NYSE and non of its significant people are TR1 shareholders in BOU

Coeur Gold Armenia is either a dissolved company in the uk or a company that RTO’d in 2017.

Coeur Gold Holdings is a company Incorporated in June last year which hasn’t filed accounts. It appears to have sold shares to two other companies (which it shares significant persons with) for $55 million (why dollars?)paid for by a loan note (IOU). I changed from being self employed to owner my own limited company I sold my business to my limited company which had no money to pay for it. So the company took over my business in exchange for zero cash but the accounts showed this as a loan from myself to the company. As funds permitted my limited company repaid this loan to me, there was no tax or national insurance due on these payments as the company was only returning what was already mine. Could the loan note be a similar arrangement?
One of the directors in Coeur Gold holdings is a significant shareholder in BOU who has filed TR1s.

Jace is that from Coeur.com?

Aiden I was under the impression that an RTO is where the listed shell buys the private company using a combination of cash and issuing new shares to the private companies owners. And a reverse merger is where a private company buys a listed company. Similar but not the same.

A_milli interesting example evrh of what we don’t want to happen and bids of what we want to happen I couldn’t find concha though ??? What was the story there? Sorry my post annoyed you, but your from your second post I seem to think you have realised where I’m coming from.

A_milli I bought because there’s money to be made from volatile shares. But I’m trying to figure out weather to “ hold for gold” or “trade to get paid”.

Hi Jace where did you get that information on Coeur as I can’t find much on it.

Hello Jace86 thank you for your response. What about Coeur do you believe is so valuable?

Aidan31 thanks for the link. So am I right in thinking that you believe BOU is going to be bought in a reverse merger rather than an RTO? That makes sense when you have a large shareholder increasing his stake in the company. Does this then lead you to believe that when he makes or is compelled to make an offer for the company it will be at a premium to the current share price?

It’s not a deramp its a genuine question. Enlighten me.

Hello i’ve been watching this share since the psl days and know the back story in regards to the RTO. I’ve taken a small stake here and took my OO and a small excess as I believe there’s money to be made from the volatility. My aim is to get a free ride and see where this share goes risk free. I understand the general idea of floating an unlisted company by a RTO but what puzzles me is where the value of an RTO comes from for current shareholders other than rampers and speculation. Surely a cash shells value is around about the cost (or less than) of a flotation plus any cash the shell has in the bank and the benefit comes from the time saved for the directors in floating their company.

My thoughts are suppose me and my business partners had built a growing company worth £10 million and we want to list it on the AIM. Let’s say the cost to float is £500k and the directors value the time saved from concentrating on floating the company at £1million and the shell has £1million in cash. To me this makes the shell worth £2.5 million so its current shares would be worth £2.5million.
I presume the shell might then pay £500k in cash to the owners of the private company and issue shares worth £9.5million at current prices which the owners of the private company receive because they aren’t just going to give their company to the shell for nothing. The shell has now purchased the private company for £10 million, in my logic the resulting company is worth £12million With the owners of the private company still having their £10 million ( having received 500k cash and £9.5 millions worth of share) and the original share holders still have their £2.5 millions worth of shares.

Where does the short term multi bag come from ?

Isn’t the added value to the original share holders that their shares are now part of a growing company instead of a dead company with no revenue ?

Please explain what I’m missing