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Mcphy have just announced a interesting project in France- shows some joined up thinking and future planning! Just think if PHE linked up with say ITM and a local city bus company etc for a UK project. Hydrogen from PHE process plus power for electrolysis hydrogen.
https://www.h2-view.com/story/mcphy-to-deploy-two-hydrogen-stations-in-france/

McPhy will deploy two hydrogen stations with a capacity of 400kg of hydrogen per day each, connected to a 1MW electrolyser in Dijon Métropole, France.

To promote and develop its hydrogen infrastructure, Dijon Métropole has created, with Rougeot Energie, the project company Dijon Métropole Smart EnergHy (DMSE).

The first step of the deployment plan is to implement, in the north of Dijon, a McPhy hydrogen solution composed of two hydrogen stations, coupled with on-site hydrogen production.

Four distribution terminals for both heavy and light vehicles will be available to supply a fleet of hydrogen vehicles, which will initially be made up of 27 buses, nine garbage trucks and around 15 light vehicles.

The project is expected to reach a total of 200 buses, 50 garbage trucks and 250 light vehicles by 2030.

The electrolyser connected to produce hydrogen on site will be powered 90% by electricity from a household waste incinerator and the remaining 10% will come from locally produced renewable energies.

Mcphy have just announced a interesting project in France- shows some joined up thinking and future planning! I hope that ITM /Linde are on the hunt for similar opportunities in UK, Germany and elsewhere, but the silence is deafening.

https://www.h2-view.com/story/mcphy-to-deploy-two-hydrogen-stations-in-france/

McPhy will deploy two hydrogen stations with a capacity of 400kg of hydrogen per day each, connected to a 1MW electrolyser in Dijon Métropole, France.

To promote and develop its hydrogen infrastructure, Dijon Métropole has created, with Rougeot Energie, the project company Dijon Métropole Smart EnergHy (DMSE).

The first step of the deployment plan is to implement, in the north of Dijon, a McPhy hydrogen solution composed of two hydrogen stations, coupled with on-site hydrogen production.

Four distribution terminals for both heavy and light vehicles will be available to supply a fleet of hydrogen vehicles, which will initially be made up of 27 buses, nine garbage trucks and around 15 light vehicles.

The project is expected to reach a total of 200 buses, 50 garbage trucks and 250 light vehicles by 2030.

The electrolyser connected to produce hydrogen on site will be powered 90% by electricity from a household waste incinerator and the remaining 10% will come from locally produced renewable energies.

“The project supported by Dijon Métropole Smart EnergHy contributes to the democratisation of hydrogen as a zero-emission alternative for public, professional or private transport,” Laurent Carme, CEO of McPhy, said.

“Our stations will make it possible to supply all the hydrogen mobility in the region: buses, garbage trucks, utility and private vehicles.” “Buses, for example, will be able to refuel with hydrogen produced on site, from household waste or local renewable energies, and travel more than 300 km without emitting any CO2 or polluting particles.”

“More than ever, we are convinced that hydrogen has a decisive role to play in the fight against air pollution and climate change.”

As part of the Dijon Métropole Smart EnergHy (DMSE) project, McPhy was chosen to design, build and integrate two hydrogen stations with a capacity of 400 kg of hydrogen / day each (one offering a pressure of 350 bar filling and the other offering a “Dual Pressure” configuration in 350 and 700 bar). They will be connected to a 1 MW high power electrolyser.

Four distribution terminals will be available to supply the heavy and light vehicles of the community and its partners, north of Dijon. This fleet will initially consist of 27 buses, 9 garbage dumpsters and around fifteen light vehicles. By 2030, it is expected to reach a total of 200 buses, 50 dumpsters and 250 light vehicles.

The specificity of the project comes from the fact that the electrolyser connected to produce hydrogen on site will be 90% powered by electricity from a household waste incinerator and the remaining 10% will come from renewable energies produced locally. This will make it possible to recover so-called “fatal” electricity, which would have been lost if it had not been able to supply this ecosystem, and to avoid nearly 2,500 tonnes of CO2 emissions per year.

The order was placed by the company Rougeot Energie, as general contractor on behalf of the company Dijon Métropole Smart EnergHy (created with the metropolis to carry out the project).

https://hydrogentoday.info/news/7239

thanks . it's beginning to get a bit more coverage as below. Also
good to have a photo of "suits" performing the ground breaking ceremony - better than just talk.

https://www.h2-view.com/story/worlds-first-hydrogen-station-for-passenger-trains-to-be-built-in-germany/

France: More than 150 Parliamentarians are Calling for “a Massive Hydrogen Plan” .
I wonder if the UK's will do the same or similar!
https://hydrogentoday.info/news/7226

A strong commercial dynamic despite the Covid-19 crisis, combined with a net increase in cash flow
https://mcphy.com/en/press-releases/activity-for-the-first-half-of-2020/

Proton Energy Systems, Inc. (dba “Nel Hydrogen US”), a wholly owned subsidiary of Nel ASA (Nel, OSE:NEL), has been awarded a $4.4 million grant by the Department of Energy (DOE) for development of advanced components and manufacturing methods to enable low cost hydrogen from electrolysis.

The purpose of the project is to leverage the DOE National Lab capabilities to develop advanced cell configurations which optimize interactions between components such as flow and conductivity, and translate those configurations to low cost manufacturing methods in collaboration with project partners. These advancements will not only reduce the cost of the components being developed, but also the adjacent parts through this optimization.
https://news.cision.com/nel-asa/r/press-release--awarded-grant-to-develop-a-novel-electrolyser-stack-to-enable-lower-cost-hydrogen-gen,c3160013

Currently gas boilers are banned from new homes from 2025 with heat pumps one of the preferred options. CBI are now calling for all gas boilers to be banned but hybrid or hydrogen ready boilers to be allowed. This would lead to more demand for hydrogen as there are difficulties with installation of heat pumps into many existing properties.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/22/ban-new-gas-boilers-uk-net-zero-target-cbi-climate-goals-heating

Irish to begin testing hydrogen and hydrogen blends in gas network
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/energy-and-resources/gas-networks-ireland-to-test-hydrogen-in-bid-to-find-low-carbon-energy-supply-1.4313996

Article in Times today but is subscription. Includes First Group who are the second busiest bus operator after Stagecoach will not purchase diesel after 2022 . At present they have 49 electric and 15 hydrogen buses. Also states that National Express has zero emission target for 2030. States that hydrogen buses are needed for the longer journeys so demand for hydrogen so hopefully hydrogen fuelling stations will should start growing in that coach sector .

Just for comparison to the discussions of hydrogen proposals for the UK, a French association have published their proposal for making France and (French companies) leaders in renewable and low carbon hydrogen. They are calling for the installation of 7 GW of electrolysers prior to 2030 and an investment of 24 billion euros across "hydrogen supply Chain". Link below but it is in French so you may need to use google translate!
https://www.afhypac.org/presse/un-plan-national-hydrogene-ambitieux-et-coherent-pour-faire-de-la-france-un-des-pays-leaders-de-l-hydrogene-renouvelable-et-bas-carbone-2446/

French hydrogen group want "To be able to achieve the national objectives, in accordance with the PPE, investments by industrial and research players are estimated at nearly 24 billion euros ( 24 billion € ) over the period 2020-2030 "
https://www.afhypac.org/presse/un-plan-national-hydrogene-ambitieux-et-coherent-pour-faire-de-la-france-un-des-pays-leaders-de-l-hydrogene-renouvelable-et-bas-carbone-2446/

PSmith Thank you for your response that your statement is not based on any recent news and is based on the trading update 8th June. Since the trading update you have made numerous statements such as " I am comfortable holding for the foreseeable future, certainly the next five years, but will be reviewing things at 1500p". Yes we can all change our mind but you have been selling and buying back in plus quoting sp's so don't expect any slack from me and others when it come to making ramping /deramping comments.

Psmith. Please advise where "it's largest job at shell going seriously wrong financially" is in the public domain.

Interesting article on future mix of Fuel Cell and electric buses. The electrolyser was awarded to proton/ NEL in 2017 !
https://www.masstransitmag.com/bus/vehicles/hybrid-hydrogen-electric-vehicles/article/21145954/sunlines-fleet-will-be-emission-free-by-2035
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1464285917303231

Agree FCEVs are the "betamax" compared to "VHS" BEVs for the foreseeable future. FCEV have their place but will be a minority share. For those investing in fuel cell "hydrogen consumer" technologies it is going to be a long haul especially those without deep pockets: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4359121-plug-power-is-facing-enormous-challenges. Fortunately "hydrogen producer" technologies ITM, NEL etc have other markets available such as industrial users, fertilisers (ammonia) , domestic gas networks available and won't have constraints due to phase out of hydrocarbons.

https://www.gasworld.tv/h2-view-in-conversation-with-shell-hydrogen/

Good write up in Telegraph - poistive for ITM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/07/15/worlds-hydrogen-revolution-marvellous-chance-britain-does-not/

As well as Bloom entering the market, Hygear a company based in Holland has just entered a distribution agreement with Perec, a Chinese electrolyser supplier .
https://hygear.com/news/hygear-partners-peric-to-supply-water-electrolysers/

Thanks. It is interesting how the cost of electric cables is much higher than h2 pipelines. It makes the life cycle cost of generating hydrogen in stand alone off-shore wind farms more competitive as there is a need to offset the inefficiencies associated with the conversion of electricity to hydrogen. I was hoping that the ITM electrolyser would be used off-shore in turbines but it seems NEL are getting ahead in this area. Where is the ITM news/wins etc ? https://www.h2-view.com/story/nel-and-doosan-join-dolphyn-project/