RE: Sp30 Mar 2021 11:51
I have to put in my "spoke" even though it bothers me I have to give this "turd" a kick.
Obviously he hasn't got a clue how the stock market works or he would know that in the UK, on 6th April a new tax year starts with a new ISA tax free allowance of £20,000.
Now, if I am holding Providence shares outside of an ISA, paid say 5p for them and they go to £1.05 after the deal is confirmed, how much UK tax will I pay on them? So, if I have 400,000 of them, and I sell them for £1.05 - I will pay about £100k tax depending on your tax bracket and perhaps more if Sunat has his say and he is going to pay for Covid19 with tax increases which he will probably announce in the Autumn budget.
But if I sell 400,000 Providence shares for 5p this week and buy them into an ISA next week using my new allowance, which is £20,000, and I subsequently sell them for £1.05 I won't pay a penny tax. So, if I do a "sort of" bed and breakfast with them by selling now and then buying post 6th April, I can potentially save myself £100k tax.
I have done this with my Providence for a number of years where taking the lowest priced share now and converting them to an ISA I have saved a fortune in CGT. So what's new?
And because I live in Ireland, the Irish Revenue will credit my UK CGT by taxes on foreign ISAs which means, since my ISA has no tax, I do not pay tax on it in Ireland either where the tax year runs on an annual basis of 1st Jan to 31 December. In fact, in one year I paid over €40,000 on share sales which goes to show how high and how low shares have been. After all, at one point Providence shares were worth over £5.
So, I either have to buy new shares or I have to sell old ones but I cannot buy before 6th April to put them into the new tax year ISA. No brainer. This "selling" is the usual sell off before tax year end prior to an ISA buy and now is a great time to do it when the price is so low, especially if the deal is announced at or before the end of April.
So, what is the panic? Perhaps this "turd" has never actually had shares or ever made any money from them and from one who spent two years fighting the Irish and English Revenues, and winning, I can point out to him share trading is far more complex than kicking over the "turds" he seems to have a fixated about which just goes to show what a "turd" he, himself, actually is.
So now back to sleep until we hear Yay or Nay about the deal.