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Google is your friend for a starter's guide to technical analysis, gap fills and the like, Bhaveen.

As for the concept of iceberg sellers...IMO of no importance for someone who has LTH/investor plans for a stock, versus a trader (where it can be extremely useful). Can be good for those looking to build a position of course.

No harm in taking some profit off the table. Only you know if your position size feels right to you.

I hope you will not take my comments the wrong way, as they are intended in a positive fashion, but your recent posts come across like you are starting to worry about the prospect of reduced paper profits, versus your stated intention to hold every single share for said 2025 results.

Anyway, remember that black swan events means an 'all bets are off' scenario - technicals, fundamentals, II plans etc. Basically nothing is certain in life apart from the old maxim of death and taxes, which is one of the compelling arguments for sensible position sizes in a portfolio - and equally vital IMO - keeping enough dry powder for future unknown opportunities - essentially never be all in.

Advice I myself only started following properly after not having as much dry powder as I would have liked, during the early part of 2020 :)

Anyway, glorious weather, so I am heading back out to work on getting sun burn :) Good weekend all.

I would not claim to be any great TA guru, but yes, I think there is a gap at that level. Not all gaps get filled though.

IMO that one will. I actually think we are going to fully retest the 200 DMA (just over 99p now). I kind of alluded to that in one of my earlier posts here, although I did not have a gap fill in mind for that prediction.

I am hoping for a strong bounce off that and back to circa 108p level, but that is subject to a range of caveats (wider market performance in the next few weeks, whether we continue to see the seller offloading etc).

Nothing is certain though. TA is IMO a useful tool to have as part of a wider tool kit, but even the better technical indicators like cup and handle patterns do not play out 100% of the time.

Well, at least it was not an after hours RNS. Still (another) shabby effort though. Another failure to meet a self-imposed deadline, albeit one of the more minor failures, comparatively.

Still do not trust them to deliver shareholder value.

Significant CEO and CFO purchases on Monday would at least start the process of rebuilding some fragment of trust that they have destroyed over the years. Anything less is cheap talk, IMO.

First purchase, then a few more, in the high and mid-40's, during that nice little consolidation trend.

Makes a nice change for me not having to average down a few times to finally hit a profit on a stock, lol :)

Although taking nothing for granted. Not a profit until realised of course. GLA.

You must have bought in around the same price that I did, if you are in a position to take profits today.

I never knock someone deciding to take a profit (nobody went hungry doing so), but just a bit puzzled with the nature of your posts.

I think we have a bit more in the tank personally, but hey, time will tell. GLA and good weekend.

Reading all your (bizarre) posts and cannot do so now without imagining you talking in the voice of one of the decepticons. Feel I need to take up the role of Optimus Prime to offer some balance :)

Bhaveen: You have previously shared that you have an average of 60 here, and that you do not plan to sell any until the full year 2025 results are released.

So why are you worrying about the SP right now?! Will swap you my ones in the low 100's for yours if you want, lol :)

While nothing in life is certain, at the time of print, this is in a good place IMO, for all the reasons earlier cited.

IMO it is likely to be a large seller and we know who it probably is.

Not advice of course, but unless we get something company-specific to change my opinion, I am fairly relaxed at this level. Ready to take a final tranche if we get a market wide sell off or correction, but otherwise going to sit back and wait for the dividend and hopefully get another update that encourages me to turn this into a longer term hold, rather than the trade I currently view it as.

Anyway, good weekend all.

Indeed. There is absolutely no excuse for this. None whatsoever.

At the bare minimum, they should have released an RNS yesterday to update the market that there was going to be a delay to the before 10th May date, which they initially announced.

Sure, it might have negatively impacted the SP, but it is not like the BOD have done anything to protect, let alone maximise, shareholder value to date, so it would hardly have been out of the ordinary.

Amateur management at best. A stench that rises up to the heavens at worst.

Keep dumping them if that is what you want. They look like they are being absorbed without difficulty right now.

We have seen a nice little period of consolidation and the chart currently looks good too. But to each their own. GLA.

I am surprised at how few comments we have seen here, since the latest failure to meet expectations that the company imposed on themselves and stipulated to the market.

Neither cheerleader apologists or disappointed bulls.

Truly dreadful outfit.

IMO it has been vulnerable to a takeover for a long time - certainly as we all know, they rejected a bid at multiples of the SP today last year was it?

So not sure if they are going to accept less than that number if it comes now.

Maybe they would at least show some respect to shareholders this time, and not keep an offer/offers quiet until a long time after the fact.

Surely not another broken promise/market misleading statement? Lol.

How late do they print RNS's, HarChris? Is it 6pm? Need to head out shortly, but will have a look later.

Quite the teasers, are they not? Building the tension like a skilled maestro....

Fair enough. Will keep it on my watch list and will have a look at New River too. Not familiar with them.

IMO the bonds here might offer a reasonable risk to reward, but corporate bonds generally are something that I might look at more seriously if we get a credit event. I know some people who did extremely well from buying these in some big names back in the GFC dark days.

80p would do me, Mary :)

This is just a trading stock for me right now. I do think it is worth a good deal more than the current price, but time will tell. Most of all, they need to find a way to crush those egregious claims.

Another example of a business where political interference results in worse outcomes all round, not least for the customer. No doubt good for the world of organised crime though.

Lord R-M saw what was going to happen (not here, more generally). A lot of things that he wrote about back in the 90's have since come to pass. Hey ho.

On the assumption that pensions are honoured in full within the next 15-20 years of course, or that the retirement age itself does not rise higher and higher, at an advanced speed.

The latter scenario is IMO pretty likely. Not that I would put it past them to essentially steal our ISA's in one way or another either. The inflation tax is not going to be enough to this end, IMO.

There is a reason why they make SIPPs so attractive. Cannot help but feel they are like a venus fly trap, the ultimate ponzi scheme....but as long as you are not entirely dependent on a theoretical and full pension pay out in X number of years, then there is not much else you can do. And if it is not too good to be true, then you are laughing all the way to the bank.

....seem pretty generous. Got to love those remuneration committees :)

Hopefully the BOD will earn those shares.

I have a low average here, but anyone who is sitting on a quid or higher average presumably might feel a little miffed about this.

Anyway, does not change my plans here, but if anyone knows the criteria for these, it would be interesting. No strike price that I can see.

Interesting. I have recently started looking at REIT's myself, for the first time in a while. Ideally ones to essentially bottom draw, along with a couple of other high dividend yielding names (like PMI, since we are sharing names) - that will hopefully not require as much focus as many individual stocks often do.

And as long as they keep on kicking out big yields, that will serve the purpose for me with that bunch.

Did not fancy LABS, but took a small starting position in CLS. EBOX is one I am still pondering, although might have missed the boat on that one; prefer it in the low 50's TBH, but not worried if it does not come to pass.

Can only focus on so many options at one time :)

Meanwhile, I hope you shareholders here get some good news soon. I remain pessimistic about it, but I am often wrong, so this might be another one to add to that list. GLA.

I completely agree. Another poor, jam tomorrow update IMO. The timing of that potential bid has been extremely fortuitous.

I am jealous :) lol.

Not tempted to rejoin anywhere near this SP level, but having missed the boat in the most recent event, it probably means you have another leg up any second now :) GLA.

Mixed bag. Good update on the pension burden though. CEO grossly overpaid for performance to date nevertheless, IMO.

Targets for buying and selling remain unchanged for me here. Not sure how the market will take the update, but nothing to scare the horses either, IMO. GLA.

Normally I would agree that enough time has passed and we now need to seek changes.

IMO this is a special situation though, so I agree with stokey about sitting tight.

Does not mean I am a happy shareholder - I share the frustrations of many of you and the many valid points and examples some of you have posted here over recent weeks (and indeed months).