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putmeonlist, I think the most important part of what you have said is that your family and yourself escaped unharmed, your insurance whilst in this case is financially important it comes nowhere being important in the overall situation, I would feel the same way as you about your loved ones escaping unharmed but we differ on our view of insurance. Looking back on life I feel lucky to have survived and still be relatively in good health ( i.e. not quite as decrepit as some of my codger mates) , the risk for me of having no insurance is financially minimal, the worst that could happen is I become liable for an amount which I am in no doubt would be for much less than the money I have already banked, I am old but for someone young I am not advocating taking the risk, I did and it went my way but whats the odds of that happening ? I had one loss when the tail end of a US hurricane hit us some years ago and flooded the house. I got a builder to look over the damage, he became dissapointed when I told him there was no insurance and to forget about the tens of thousands of pounds repair costs he was totting up at every turn, I fixed the whole lot myself for less than £1000. The builders worst gaff was the floorboards which had curled which he claimed would need either new replacements or sanding down, they went flat again within a few months without any work needed. The way I see paying insurance premiums is like an inverse lottery where I get paid a small amount regularly for taking a big risk but an ever diminishing risk. I must admit though I do see holding IAG at todays price as being towards the lower end of my risk scale.

Mr Messy is wrong yet again, US unemployment may for a brief period touch 30% maybe even higher but that probably will be a for a brief period, people will book holidays as soon as they can see they will be able to get moving again, I will be one of them.

and we are off to a good start, Mr Messy gets it wrong yet again.

Mr Messy has now become an outright liar, I did not 'reckon' £8 within 12 months' . As our posts go on ( and on and on ) I am convinced that you are making everything up as you go along Mr Messy, I think in you really believe that you can make the share price go down by increasing your post count ? I take risks trading IAG and also am a long term holder but your claimed risk taking makes mine pale into insignificance with your 10 African gold miners plus your shorts taken out at various levels on JETS, you make my gambling look quite conservative by comparison but I think yours is probably all imaginary on demo accounts.

Mr Messy, I am not envious of whatever stocks you have or not, I have ben playing the stock market for near on 40 years, I have not made a fortune despite really believing I would for about the first 20 years, the initial motivation for me was to do better than the building society interest rate which was quite ambitious in the 1980s as 15% interest was available on a 28 day deposit account and then to do slightly better long term than a unit trust PEP, so far its all worked out well and every crash in the market which was so important at the time like it was the end of the world was followed by a good recovery so that the crashes on the long term graphs are hardly noticeable, no reason to believe it will be different this time. Anyway I am signing off until next week to cut my hedges , got have some life away from the ministry of silly arguments.

What you misundstand is that I have enough cash most of the time as I am primarily a punter, a gambler v investor in a ratio of about 80/20, I doubt you have ever read any of my posts as I have repeated this many times. You on the other hand are a fantasist, I am not risk averse but the idea of owning 10 South African gold miners, thats hilarious. but keep tight hold of them Mr Messy just in case some of them goes up as in t, its up.

What Fauci said was exactly what I would expect him to say, I do not criticise him for saying it, of course there can be no guarantees , and what Bright said was also correct, underpomise and over deliver is fine by me although he has now become irrelevant. I believe my optimism that a vaccine and a treatment will both be developed quickly is not misplaced, doom mongers like you will be proved wrong. I am certainly not stupid Mr Messy but on the other hand you are certainly very childish but hopefully you will live and learn.

Jeremy Corbyn the friend of terrorists the world over, honest he just loves terrorists attends as many of their funerals as he can but he did not attend the funerals in Warrington, here is Jeremy Corbyn ;
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour-leader-corbyn-faces-fresh-criticism-for-silence-over-warrington-bombing-35646993.html

You continue to ignore the probable numbers infected and the probable numbers of infected and recovered, these figures will come out in the future and you will be shown to be wrong again. I was sorry that Ribeeca long Bailey did not win the leadership contest but at least she will get some kind of job that will help the conservatives win the next election as well.

Mr Messy you are now trying to hijack the high gound by stating the obvious, I am comfortable with mathematics and statistical analysis always being right but this has nothing to do with the correctness of pure mathematic and statistical analysis theory, if you put the wrong numbers in then you will get nonsense out, thats always been the case and as usual it comes down to politics, so it suits you to exaggerate the downside. You do realise that labour rightly got absolutely wiped out in the general election or is this something you find difficult to comprehend ?

First point , yes I voted conservative and support bojo, what about you Sinn Fein voter ? I would also broadly be in agreement with Trump, I hope he gets re elected , Trump is no doubt a buffoon but compared the alternative for the yanks is the dems so it seems to me better of the two evils. Of course you can play with the numbers Mr Messy and being the political person you are you will twist them to suit your point, I think its 90% probable that the real number of infections now and of those recovered will in time be proved to have been at least ten times the confirmed numbers, seems obvious and common sense but in your case you have an agenda which is never ever give an inch to what you see as your political foe, dont worry Mr Messy I have you sussed out, a did you vote for Sinn Fein ?

Mr Messy, wrong again and making up 'facts'. It is probable that the death rate is much less than 1%, at this stage the actual numbers of 'those infected' is not known but it is probably a lot higher by many times the numbers confirmed. Reopening is not a hge mistake. The WHO is a discredited organisation but in this case stating the obvious 'the virus work is not yet finished' do they get the prize for the most stupid comment of the week. The scaremongering really seems to have infected your brain and is probably more of a danger to you than the virus, take no notice of the BBC and MSM Guardian etc, teachers union , left wingers , they naturally will milk the political angle for all its worth. I do not believe your reasons for being here but I always enjoy trying to figure out people but one thing I am not 100% certain about is are you a Sinn Fein supporter ?

caitlin1 the human candle stick chart, if I were deaf I could employ you to read out the IAG price at 1 minute intervals and as you have nothing else to do I would be doing you a favour, problem is you are blind to any upward movement so you are as much use as a chocolate teatpot.

What a silly comment caitlin1 considering you post every five minutes everyday and seem to be as obsessed with IAG as whatymessyand his fantasy portfolio of ten African miners and JETS shorts. IAG does a spike nearly every day, did you never notice this before, its something that can be very helpful but clearly you can only see negatives ? I reckon if you were offered IAG at 20p today you would probably refuse and ask for a 50% discount.

Whatymessy, I am not really bothered wether you answer me or not, what matters is that you have exposed yourself as a fantasist, claiming to owning ten SA gold miners plus several short positions open on JETS2, absolute madness and then you go on about the risk of owning IAG, so you can throw caution to the wind with gay abandon and then come on here and 'warn' of the risks of IAG, do you really not see the comical side of what you are writing about ?

Yes I do ask Mr Messy, I 'warned' you it was flatlining and you never replied to that, if I were shorting this which I am not I would have closed out by now but then a mogul like yourself with ten different shares in SA goldminers plus not just one short on Jets but several and then you advise Johnewing on your 'golden rule' ( one of your many ), very funny, but you have a great imagination. I have some experience having lived in South Africa and supplying equipment to the mining industry and was a holder in the defunct Lonhro for many years ( one of my worst punts) and have been to their sites many times, the idea of owning 10 gold miners in SA , you really do take the biscuit . I 'warned' termite to try trading Centamin when it was around a £1 , its now £1.68, same as IAG no stamp duty and big enough to get in and out easily but Egypt is a bit like SA and you think the virus is risky, very funny.

Mr Messy , you are completely clueless , one thing you would probably find hard to accept is that there are many people punting on IAG that have vastly more trading experience and have been doing it sucessfully for a lot longer than you have and rightly will take no notice whatsoever about your silly 'warnings' , I am sure most private investors who deal with IAG are probably not as risk averse as you. My profile of you is that you are around 30, probably you have a demo account with a CFD provider and you have some imaginary winnings on jets, you lost money on INFA , you are possibly a lib dem voter or if you live in NI voted for Sinn Fein, could be I am completely wrong but its just the impression you have given me so far. I do not get emotionally attached to shares and IAG does not account for more than around 5 to 10% of my equity exposure although some days it can be much more depending on opportunity but mainly I trade short term rather than hold, it is the volatility of IAG and low cost of trading that makes it one of the best but you think that JETS is better, fool.

Mr Messy , you speak tripe again, and you are totally contradictory. Your golden rules make me laugh and thats why I am here. An ETF is akin to buying a unit trust etc only its normally more focussed and has lower charges and can be traded but whats the point , there is none and with your jets 2 you are paying through the nose for your short ( thats if you have one at all) with $ risk plus charges from your CFD provider, when I short I try to do it in a day or a few days, the costs can rapidly mount up which can be especially frustrating for youself when its been flatlining for weeks and now appears to be oversold, if I were you I would get out now ( if you are really in that is ). The concept of spreading your risk has been pumped by fund managers for decades and why not, the idea all feeds into their storyline to get you to buy their safe investments, last time I did that was with Cazenove in the late 80s when peps started, I still have it as a benchmark but its only because I am lazy that I did not close it as even though its multi bagged I could have easily beat the performance over 30 odd years by buying something boring like SSE which over the same period has risen by a factor of 10 with dividends reinvested and no fund managers charges to hold it down . Anyone on here taking part in actually owning IAG shares or trading them is probably not as risk averse as you seem to be with your worries about the virus etc , you are probably wasting what little energy you have by telling us about your 'golden rules' of investing, so funny.

termite , we will see IAG at £8 before end 2023, in the meantime there is plenty of opportunity to trade it which is what I have been doing for a long time but you just sit on the sidelines and hope for 80p which is not going to happen. I think both a treatment and a vaccine will be developed by 2021 maybe earlier.

Catylin, your post makes absolutely no sense, ' being walked down to allow the big boys to get out' , are you having problems thunking up nonsense as you clearly have a need to keepyour post count up ?

I am always here from around 6.45 to 5pm termite and I read all posts on IAG so I can have a little titter , your 'timberrrrrr' post made me imagine you nibbling a bite out of the base of a giant redwood and then looking up expecting it to collapse, its going to be there long after you have given up, perhaps look for a piece of dead wood to nibble on ?