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g59
''institutional investors, in turn adjust there valuations to reflect the reductions in both cash and shares''

Once again, more nonsense - the share capital on the liabilities side is reduced by the same amount

g59
''In other words, lower cash earnings divided between fewer shares will produce no net change''

what part of the air did you grab this.
What lower cash earnings?

market currently valuing Lloyds at under £30 Billion - £2 Billion buyback continues. £2 Billion investment every year please.

''come on then you lot, email away??? ????????''

just what gary59 needs to do with his comment of -
''When shares are brought back the EPS grows & this reaches the BOD target & they get rewarded.''

Tom
''LTI
"why are you saying they can influence the share price when obviously they can't?"
"without the buyback the share price would be lower."
How are you not seeing this obvious contradiction. ''

It looks like you got confused.
the "why are you saying they can influence the share price when obviously they can't?" is in connection to the email from Lloyds which stated -
''As stated previously in further correspondence, we have no control over the share price, and it is set by the market'' - nothing to do with buybacks.

s123
no need - I am happy with the profitability of Lloyds and how they are using those profits.

again , averaging up

ls
''That's not how the market's value a company
You don't understand how this works''

ffs - you are having a laugh

ls
if a company had a million shares that the market valued at 100p each ( £1 million market cap)and then 100,000 were bought and cancelled, but the market reduced the valuation of the business to £900,000, the share price would still be 100p.

What do you not understand?

ls
''this is utter rubbish''

is this supposed to mean anything?

ls
''This isn't true''

is that supposed to mean anything?

ls
''Did you just made this up''

is that supposed to mean anything?

ls
''"without the buyback the share price would be lower"
markets decide the share price''

yes - No need to repeat

Tom
''Therefore the email that started this whole chain is lying.''
what do you not understand ?

As has been said .Lloyds have no influence over the share price - it is determined by the market.
A buyback simply reduces the share count. If a buyback took 5% of shares off of the market but the market puts a valuation on Lloyds at 5% lower than before the buyback, then the share price would be the same before and after the buyback

cb
''stop frittering away our money.''

Any money Lloyds bank make, it is for the BOD's to decide what to do with it.
The decision by an investor is the choice of investment.

fec
''My portfolio of shares, funds and trusts are down 30% overall, ''

it is about stock selection (in your case bad).
The ftse 100 is only about 10% off of an all time high.
Only YOU can decide what to do.
Some are happy with 100% inflation hit cash

ev
the market determines valuation

ev
''They have been buying back millions of shares for years without it having any effect on the price''

for years?

there was one in 2018 and one in 2019. This years amounts to both of those combined.
Any others that you know about in the last 30 years?

tom
''why the email from LBG would say that they cannot influence share price when they obviously can!?''

why are you saying they can influence the share price when obviously they can't?

''Removing shares from stock will influence the share price as you have said''.

without the buyback the share price would be lower.
The market decides on the valuation of Lloyds and therefore the share price on a daily basis.

ls
I repeat "Lloyds are currently returning 10% to shareholders"

no if or buts