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Where's Bar cap when you need him? I think a good clear out is needed though this probably doesn't go far enough. I think the hope here is a takeover. The IP is probably pretty valuable, it's inexpensive after all the screw ups, and competitors might think that putting their own much more competent management in place could yield big gains.
I agree. One of the main reasons I invested was the divi. 1.7% might not look like much but the track record is fantastic. In 2011 it was under 2p. Now it's about 16p. I don't see it growing as fast over the next 10-15 years but I would still expect c. 10% rises per year. Plus, they're basically debt-free now and cover is over 5, so it's almost zero risk. My main reason to buy is sp growth, but the divi is a significant factor.
Interesting to look at the targets for the new share scheme. I didn't study it carefully but looks like employees get a payout if revenue growth is over 20% for 24-26 and 15% 27-28. In short, the aim is to more than double revenue in the next 5 years. Seems about right.
My take is that this is a hold. I don't see why the deal would fall through given it's not hostile and the board has recommended it. But there's no reason why another bidder might not step in. At 615p worse comes to the worse is the exchange rate moves in the wrong direction and you lose a few pennies per share. Personally, I think the premium is disappointing, but then it's often in those situations when another bidder emerges.
I would tend to agree but they have seriously upped the quantities over the last few days, so what would explain that? I also struggle to see what else they might do with all the cash. They're not acquisitive and Morgan seems to prefer to roll out organic growth quite cautiously. There are hundreds of millions available, with more coming in thick and fast. In a highish interest rate environment a big cash pile is ok but I'd rather see buybacks, especially when the shares are still quite cheap. I don't see why they can't spend the windfall from interest income on buybacks and use other profit and existing cash to fund growth.
They are making exactly £20m per quarter in interest (2bil X 4% ÷ 4). There are 65 working days in a quarter and 20m ÷ 65 = ~ 300k. So with the sp at 2000 they can buy 15,000 shares a day indefinitely from the interest income alone. If they do that, hard to see the SP doing anything other than keep going up...
The brokers have consistently got this company completely wrong and the shortest have consistently got it right. When this IPO'd the brokers were forecasting a CAGR of 64% (and that was prior to acquisitions). As it is, EPS fell by about 64% between 2021 and 2022 despite spending 600m on acquisitions. I own about 30 companies and this has been the worst of the bunch. The lesson I've learned is not to buy things based on potential and broker forecasts. Consistent profit growth and rising dividends are the only things that matter and on these grounds this company is an abject failure.
In April 2022 they forecast revenue in excess of $500 for 2024 and margins to have increased from the 32-36% they forecast for 2023. The latest results are miles off. And they blame China which they've been trying to get out of almost since they first listed. And we're in the middle of an AI boom they say they're right in the middle of. It's pathetic. Anyway, telling themselves these results are ok are lying to themselves.
This company consistently rises on hope and sinks on results. Let's face it, it's a serial disappointment. All around it competitors are booming on AI but AWE manages a profit warning. I also can't stand the way they report. Cumulative revenue over the lifetime of the company, bookings, design wins... It's all irrelevant when you've gone from net cash of 500m to -100m and are issuing profit warnings. I've held for years now and I'm sick to death of this terrible company.
I'm always amazed how shorts so often target companies with very weak sentiment whose SPs are already very depressed. Sure, you might push it down even further but there's the danger of a turnaround. It could also be here that they're betting on AI disruption, but it seems to be it's too early to tell how that will pan out. Personally I think that for a company to be growing organically in a difficult context and to be generating tons of cash on a p/e of 5 makes no sense. Fair value would be somewhere in the £10-16 range. Under £7 is still a bargain though I'm not necessarily expecting a rapid recovery yet. That will probably only happen if and when we get into serial interest rate cut territory.
I think there's a reasonable chance that the recent dip in the SP to the 15-18 range will prove similar to the one of summer 2020, which was followed by a long rally. I'm hoping the main market listing and growing awareness of how good a company this is will power this up to around £35 which strikes me as a more realistic valuation.
Looks like I was wrong about this one maxing out at 23%. It's now nearly 29%. So the SP would have to rise 40% to close the gap. Buybacks are obviously one way forward. At a certain point in ridiculous cheapness it would even make sense to sell holdings to buy back your own stock. Not sure how often that happens but there's definitely an opportunity here for some sort of arbitrage.
I'm trying to work out whether to hold or sell my remaining shares, having already sold 40% this morning. I'm tending towards sell on the following grounds: 1. I'm not sure Mondi can outbid IP's bid; 2. At 3.93 it's close to IP's bid already and I don't want shares in a US company; 3. It's not obvious who else might enter a bidding war; 4. If everyone walked away, as they did with Curry's, the shares could drop back to say 3 quid, so downside risk seems higher than upside. Any decent counter arguments?
Amazingly the SP to NAV divergence is still widening. It's now 27%. So for 1.89 you get 2.59 worth of bluechip green investments. Interesting to see how this one plays out. On the face of it, though, it's a real bargain.