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The comments over at AEX suggest this guy has a few 'contacts':

https://www.lse.co.uk/profiles/robbie1424/

https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/WEN/

https://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/AEX/14216327.html

Didn't do anything special - sent an email to Stuart last week re my holding and also asked to be add to his email 'list'. Received a quick reply and then the email today.

For those of you on Stuart's mailing list, check your email for some info re: Cindrigo

Have a look at what I posted on here last Tuesday and a few post which followed

Hi all,

Well, after not checking for a few years, decided to take a look today and it seems we may have a bit of movement :-)

I was wondering though if anyone could give me a bit of help? My original purchase of CICC shares was back in ~2012 and my Lloyds sharedealing account showed the holdings below in mid 2017:-

CIC Capital Limited (Seychelles) (9807): 184320 shares
CIC Capital Ltd NPV (9038): 184320 shares
CIC Gold Group Ltd ORD NPV (DI) (CICG): 26844 shares

The account now shows just the Seychelles holding and Lloyds haven't really been much help both now and previously - all I've been able to get is variations on we are waiting to hear from the registrars, which suggests they haven't really grasped what is happening!

I was therefore wondering what was best to do next?

@ sage - hope you are still enjoying life in Cornwall :-)

Neither have I :-(

No problem - it's causing a few of us a bit of a headache as a number of UK 'brokers' do not use the new platform. There also seems to be some confusion re the ability and process involved in order to transfer to a broker who can, with most saying it cannot take place until new certificates are correctly issued/received. Furthermore there seems to be some uncertainty re the new certificates with some claiming non receipt!

@ Bodgit - on the 5th Sept, a RNS was issued advising shares would: "shift from UK Crest and Depository Interests to that of trading through Clearstream/Euroclear on the Xetra trading platform" Once re-list takes place (assuming it will?) your broker will need to be able to operate on this platform otherwise you will not be able to trade :-(

This? http://www.ciccapital.com/companyreports.html

According to Lloyds, they have not received the certificates: "we have not yet received the new certificates for the shares so nothing can really be done from our side. However what we can do is call the registrar to find out when they expect us to receive the certificate" This was a week ago and I've not heard anything since?

Can't see any changes either ????????

This was from my current 'broker' when I questioned about transferring out:- * Pre UK delist: "You can transfer at any time". As the shares were listed on the UK exchange at this time, I'm assuming this would have been correct, although not very specific and a little careless on their part given I and they knew about a pending delist & relist! * Post UK delist (Early September): "The process is quite easy and you can transfer at any time". Clearly incorrect! * Post UK delist (One week ago): "As of yet we have not received any further communication from the registrar, and we have not yet received the new certificates for the shares so nothing can really be done from our side. However what we can do is call the registrar to find out when they expect us to receive the certificate as when we have those we can transfer them to another provider if you wish". Probably correct process wise however, it seems strange they are claiming non receipt of new certificates when other appear to have these They were going to speak to the registrars and I was promised an update from them on Monday just gone but haven't heard anything. I'll be chasing either today or tomorrow. If I hear anything which is relevant, I'll post back.

At this point, I have no intention of selling straight away either. I do however want the choice. Equally, I would like to be in a position where trading is possible without any delay. I currently have neither! Although not ideal, I will happily transfer to achieve this but my problem is that nobody seems know how or be willing to take control in order to facilitate this. I too think that a listing will be needed to effect the transfer but, my other issue is that pre UK de-listing (when rumours of a different exchange were first voiced), even though the new exchange had not been confirmed, I was advised that I would be able to trade once the listing had been completed. From memory (I may have got this wrong) I'm sure I read something on here by another posted who had transferred into Halifax based on being told similar. If I had been advised correctly at this point or simply informed that it may not be possible, I would have considered transferring then and have subsequently been advised that this would have been possible relatively easily. A financial loss or the potential of a loss will probably be the 'trigger' for me, although a few more 'we will contact you' followed by nothing may push me too.

Everything so far is via WebChat, which I receive a copy of. TBH though, unless I have a financial loss / potential financial loss, I'm not too bothered about raising a complaint, however that may change. I'd simply like to deal with someone who knows what they're on about, gives 100% correct information and can clearly communicate to me what the next steps need to be. I have asked on a few occasions 'what needs to happen now so that, if I choose to do so, I can trade on day 1 of the new listing' and this seems to be a real stumbling block for them! They can tell me that I need to transfer to another broker but not how this should be done, so I currently don't have a definitive answer or timescales. I was however given the impression that I would get these via the call which should have come yesterday. Must confess though - the more days go by, the more nervous / frustrated I am becoming as it is less likely I'll have the option to trade on day 1. I'll give them a few more days and, if there's no call, contact them again. Re the sites, hopefully a good sign. Have tried looking at the historic 'cached' version to see if anything could be gleaned, but these was nothing new.

Well..... Monday has come and gone and there was no call :-(

This is what I was told on the 6th Sept after referring them to the 5th RNS: "We was not aware of this at this time. Now that we are what will happen is we will write a communication out to customers, I have been informed this may take a few days but it will be on its way soon" Didn't hear anything until I contacted them today. This was the response when I queried why: "I'd also like to apologise for the information you received on the 6th, my colleague has gone down the assumption that a new corporate action usually comes out about 3 days after an RNS, which is true but it sounds like they made it seem like this was a definite, when it actually can't be guaranteed" Couldn't be bothered to push it further today, although that won't be the case if I don't get the Monday call.

"As of yet we have not received any further communication from the registrar, and we have not yet received the new certificates for the shares so nothing can really be done from our side. However, what we can do is call the registrar to find out when they expect us to receive the certificate as when we have those we can transfer them to another provider if you wish. But please be aware that as the stock has not completed its transfer to another market they will not be able to be traded with the new broker. We can call you on when we have an update". They are apparently speaking with the regstrar today and will call me Monday.

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