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He will try to silence now, he'll be furiously hitting report. Guarantee it

Wids,

He's getting desperate. His leftist arguments are holding no weight. So he's now put his spelling and grammar police uniform on. That's another tactic of leftists.

Here comes JayFax to say Breitbart is X,Y, Z nonsense, that's what leftist do. They try to discredit the source. Feel free to google what Breitbart say and you will find the same thing on loads of websites.

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/17/macron-europe-migration-destiny-africa/

Well said LastCall... you forgot the people that know what they're doing imposed a no fly zone over Libya to help overthrow Gaddafi.

Even Gaddafi himself said... if you remove me from power you will open the bottle cork to Africa, Europe will be flooded with Africans. He was right and it's happening right now.

Even French President Macron said "Europe Entering Age of ‘Unprecedented’ Mass Migration, ‘Shares Destiny’ with Africa" that's ok for him to say, he has no children.

"JMO
DAESH / ISIL love people like you talking about what you'd do. "

You still haven't said what you would do, critique constantly by offer zero solution. Now you're getting nippy again because you have no valid counter argument. Time to hit report again JayFax, no doubt you do it when you're not winning the debate.

"The £9 billion to monitor 27.000 works out at £300,000 each a year."

You type that like that's you prove you're point, £300,000 each a year is not much... it's hardly any money. Meanwhile we can't even afford our NHS, so the government is freezing our tax free allowance at a time when earnings are not keeping up with inflation... whilst we simultaneously spend £9 Billion a year trying to stop people who want to kill us from killing us.

"If you fancy wasting your resources like you describe you better tell half of Northern Ireland to pop down to take a lie detector test as well, and see the reaction. Them and 20000 posible neo-nazis. A quarter of the terror plots stopped are theirs"

Yeah that's why there's been what two in the last 5 years? How many Muslim terrorist plots have their been all over the Western world? It's nonsense statistics to try and justify their argument about what the majority thinks.
Northern Ireland people are not committing acts of terror right now. You might find one obscure example... but everyone knows who's doing it right now. Leftist looney tunes don't fool anyone.

"My approach? Don't talk s#### to radicalise more people and leave it people who know what they are dojng. If you think they don't arrest people preemptively when its a productive thing to do you haven't been keeping up."

But they haven't been able to stop all the terrorist attacks. Manchester, West Minster Bridge... London trio of stabbers, July 7th bombers... so clearly the approach doesn't work enough. You still haven't given a solution, you don't have one. You're just a clueless lefty who rabbits on like Nick Clegg.

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You have a point LastCall, maybe I'm being too diplomatic. But I don't believe the majority of Muslims think that way, if they did we'd be in WW3 right now. Most of them must just want to go about their lives and don't want involved.

I don't think it's acceptable as the problem will only grow until no one can ignore it.

"But the silent majority are responsible for terrorism if they know its within the community and say nothing....isnt that accessory to the fact ?"

A lot of them secretly support it (but not the majority) Polls have shown that.... Salah Abdeslam after helping kill 130 people in Paris with an AK47... he fled to Molenbeek and hid there for 6 months. Apparently he had been going about his business within the community and no one let the authorities know his where abouts.

I have a lot of respect for Raheel Raza, and another favorite I have is Maajid Nawaz on the LBC. Can you imagine if all peaceful Muslims spoke up like they do?

I don't expect them to as they risk their lives, but the senior leaders of our government should be speaking up about it. They have round the clock security, they can speak their mind. But the people we have in charge right now, either don't get it, or don't want the hassle.

But with time the British electorate will remove people like that from power, and put people who are willing to discuss it openly in power.

They know the hate speech legislation is being misused. Every expert on extremism say you can't fix the problem of extremism until you first identify it for what it is, and discuss it openly.

I guarantee you the majority of Muslims don't like these extremists either, but they're too scared to say anything just like most of the population is. The extremists are just as much of a threat to them as they are to us, in fact probably more so because they are in the same communities.

But the minority is not a small minority, it's a significant minority. I've posted it before, but here's a "NON Right Wing" video presented by a practicing Sunni Muslim women... she gets death threats constantly... but she speaks out.

https://youtu.be/pSPvnFDDQHk

JayFax,

My primary argument is always lack of control over Immigration. Lack of control over our own laws, that the UK joined a 6 country European Economic area, that became a 28 country political union... the British people didn't agree to a 28 country political union, nor did they agree to let Brussels create the majority of the new laws affecting our country.

We have 73 MEP's, there are 751 MEP's in total our share of the vote is only 9.72%... yet the majority of new laws affecting our country are not made in the UK, they're made in the EU. It's not conspiracy theory to suggest that the EU is becoming one big regional government with more and more power over it's constituent countries. If the British people could have seen the way the EU would turn out in 2018 back in 1975 when they voted for something completely different, there isn't a chance in hell they've have voted for it.

Nor would they have voted for sociopaths like Tony Blair happy to flood the country with immigrants to compete against the British people on housing, school places, hospital waiting lists etc

The Elite have slowly given our country away. It's laws, it's borders, it's corporations... and to top it all off our identity is being diluted by demographic replacement due to our lower fertility rate. A fertility rate that's lower because excessive inflation caused predominantly by excessive demand means most British people who want to work can't afford to have 2 or more children.

The economic side is secondary to me. I'd only rather be poor than lie down to the way the country is changing. In 30 - 40 years from now our culture and way of life is going to be changed beyond all recognition due to a certain religion. There isn't an economic argument that overrules that for me.

Most British people are struggling on wages that have not risen in real terms for decades. That's real terms, to keep up with the excessive cost of living. They already feel poor, they couldn't care less if we lose 10% or 20% of trade with the EU... common sense tells us that after an initial hit the economy will recover and grow and we'll have control.

But the elite have done everything possible to thwart Brexit, they're playing with fire... and inviting in extreme right wing parties... and if there's a massive economic downturn like the 1930's when there was only 2 Billion people on the planet... with a population now 3 times that. What do you think is going to happen if the majority feel like their voice is being ignored? That their country isn't there's anymore? That they have nothing to lose as they have no job anyway?

And the EU will take a hit too, especially Germany the unofficial leader of the EU. It will be amazing how quickly they move when they're losing money and jobs in the German car industry.

"Assumingno deal it will likely take 10 years minimim to reinstate the free trade agreements, treaties and side agreements we have with and via the EU now."

That will be up to the EU, they are known for their excessive bureaucracy leading to excessive and unnecessary delays. It took Canada 7 years to reach a deal. But during those 7 years we will be on WTO terms, which means trade doesn't completely stop like project fear is trying to imply.

And the trade we do lose will be made up with trade deals with the rest of the world that we're currently prohibited from fully perusing due to the EU's protectionist rules.

"We wont be able to progress other deals too much until we finalise our status with the EU."

If we leave the EU completely with no deal, there is absolutely nothing stopping the UK pursuing deals with the rest of the world, as the EU will no longer have a legislative hold over the UK stopping us doing so.

"Unless of course we get a reasonable deal with EU which maintains some status quo and facilitates things."

You mean the common rule book Treason May is proposing that means complete jurisdiction of the ECJ over the rules in the Common Rule Book that was created by the EU and not the UK? That's not Brexit and most leave voters know it.

"Doha is evidence that trade is complicated and difficult to.progress and that WTO is not some easy fix ten or twelve UK governments have accidentally overlooked."

No one has said the WTO is an easy fix. In fact if we go on to WTO terms I expect a hit 10 to 20% of trade with the EU at a guess. Then we slowly deal with each EU country one by one.

But the hit we take on EU trade whilst we do that can be sorted by new trade deals if we have the right leadership to negotiate them. It's not rocket science.

The buy backs are a drop in the ocean, if there's a lot of selling happening. Market sentiment will drive the LLOY share price. If talks on the trade war are anounced the whole market will rally, and LLOY will be dragged with it. Then any qualities specific to LLOY will determine whether it outperforms, under-performs or matches the performance of hit's peers.

The intrinsic value of LLOY based on the discount to future cash flow is £1 according to SimplyWall.st but that valuation will change either up or down depending on data/reports etc

Culture* not Culture(s) Multiculturalism hasn't actually failed in the UK. Only one Culture is failing. And we all know which one.

The economic argument doesn't work anyway. Most people in the UK are struggling financially, they already feel screwed economically. It's not like they're thriving and thinking oh no we're going to lose all this surplus of money we're making. No that's reserved for the upper middle and upper classes... most of which you will see in their droves at remain protests.

People voted out because they are sick to death of globalisation reducing their quality of life. House prices, Hospital waiting times, Heavily congested roads, Scarce school places, Cultures that don't want to assimilate, and the EU'#s open door policy to those Cultures. I could go on and on the list is long.

Nonsense, we won't cease trading with the EU. We will be on WTO terms if no deal happens that won't set us back 10 years... and you have no evidence to back that up either. The Doha trade talks starting in 2001 in not evidence of the UK losing 10 years worth of actual trade.

And it doesn't take into consideration trade deals we can make with the rest of the world at all.

For a start a Corbyn government will disrespect the USA so much that the USA will refuse to do deals with the UK, especially if Trump gets a second term.

Corbyn has already said he wouldn't invite Trump to the UK, and he's spouted a lot of anti American rhetoric in the past. It's far more likely that Corbyn will seek trade deals with countries like Iran, Palestine, African countries and Marxist countries... he will let half the 3rd world into the UK which also helps to strengthen the Labour voter base.

I think that might finally wake a lot of the working class up, who hang on to Labour like it's anything remotely like the party it was setup to be.... that might seriously tip the balance in favour of the right wing.

What Treason May consistently does is... states something very unpopular with the electorate. Be in Social Care Reforms, or Remain dressed as Brexit... and then tries to dress it up in a way she thinks will fool the electorate into accepting what she's imposing on them.

She must be secretly arrogant off camera to think that she's far smarter than everyone else. Public opinion is massively against her and her plan, that's obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes that can read.