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"Many thousands of very critical eyes are on public stats"

LeftyFax,

Clearly those eyes are not on the amount of money transferred out of UK banks and sent back to the immigrants respective home countries. But feel free to tell me the amount, if thousands of eyes are on the stats you must be able to answer that question?

If Brexit is not delivered, politics will change big time in this country.

If a second referendum is granted after 2 years of constant politically biased Project Fear through the mainstream media and after Treason May said over and over again there would be no second referendum, and that leads to a remain vote politics will change big time in this country.

Both will lead to Brexit happening anyway when the Right wing take control.

LeftyFax,

You can harp on about economics over and over again. The numbers of immigrants coming to this country is insane. 282,000 people, it doesn't matter what you say it's nuts. And until it's reduced to 50k or less the standard of living for the average person in this country is going to keep dropping. Simple as that.

"Official figures show that as do official figures show EU immigrants more than pay their way. "

The official figures are BS... Why? They don't measure the amount of money sent out of the country back to the EU migrants home countries... many of which also don't bring their families here and instead send money back to them. Until those figures are including in the overall calculation of whether or not EU workers are paying their way, then they are incomplete.

Any money sent out of the UK is money not kept in the UK economy, and as such not taxed VAT when paying for goods.

LeftyFax,

It was this article I got it from, it's rather misleading. It's talking about private education, but says state system https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/10169865/Costs-for-state-school-hits-22500-per-child.html

I see the figures you're talking about from the IFS... £4,900 a year for Primary school and £6,300 for secondary school. But still a minimum wage worker would be paying less tax than the cost of sending their child to school. That's obviously how society works, the richer pay more to help the poorer and I'm fine with that as long as it's not crazy Marxism like Corbyn will undoubtedly introduce.

Where I have a problem is when we're doing this for people who are not British citizens. And as for SNIGE who only reads the parts he can use to twist. I'll say again, we should be forcing employers to pay unskilled workers far more. If prices need to go up then so be it, but by drastically reducing immigration and rapidly increasing house building, the cost of buying or renting a home would be less (single biggest outlay) so any increase in food costs etc would be more than offset in lower house prices.

The sheer demand for housing from immigrants is the number one problem when it comes to immigration in terms of economics. You only have to go on Zoopla.co.uk and study how quickly house prices increased after 1997 when compared to pre 1997 on pretty much any given street in a high immigrant area... house prices have seriously hammered the standard of living in the UK.

By the time most people pay their mortgage or rent, and other bills + food shopping, more people either have nothing left or very little, and increasing numbers are turning to debt.

282,000 in a single year is absolute insanity. If you honestly support 282,000 people coming to this country a year JayFax you're off your rocker.

The tax payer is literally subsidizing cheap unskilled imported Labor. Time we stopped importing cheap unskilled Labor, start paying a much higher wage to British unskilled workers, so they can earn a decent living, not just survival and pay more tax in the process.

The elite are taking the p*ss.

caller*

LeftyFax,

State School costs £22,500 per child. If an unskilled EU migrant comes here with their child, or children and works for £7.50 an hour assuming 39 hours a week as most contracts are... that's £15,300 a year. The tax they way is a tiny amount compared to their cost.

And that's not even taking into consideration NHS costs, or any benefits they get. Judging by that called on the LBC a lot of them come here for 6 months do a seasonal job and then go on to benefits after it.

The Tory's have got no chance of winning the next general election with that idiot, liar Treason May. In fact I think she's done so much damage to the Tory's I struggle to think of anyone who could fix it.

If they win, it will be down to pure fear over what Marxist Muhammad Corbyn will do to the country.

he* not she

And all these unskilled migrants people say we need...

Have you ever considered that by being paid the national minimum wage they either don't pay tax very little... and when they bring there kids here to be educated at our schools, and their family to receive healthcare in our NHS etc... they are taking money right out of our system.

As a caller said on the LBC yesterday... An employer he was, he said he was trying to hire someone for a 6 month job at £11k pay... he got given details of someone's work history by an employment agency. He said they sound good, can you send them for an interview. They said it will take them a few days as he's in Poland.

When the employer asked, how will that work with housing etc... she was told he will stay with friends already here and after 6 months he will go on benefits and bring his family here.

So £11k pay, nothing paid in tax... on to benefits after 6 months and bring his kids in too, kids that will be educated at cost in our schools, that will compete for school places with British Tax payers children.

We are mugs and the immigrants know it.

Mickb,

You were close, they have their kids here... and less than 1 in 5 of the most undesirable immigrants are employed.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4411913/just-one-in-five-muslims-are-in-work-as-report-finds-they-are-held-back-by-racism/

Rarafan,

I'm normally a Conservative voter too, but there's nothing Conservative about them anymore. And no I don't think we need a Centrist party for either side. I think we need a Strong Right wing party to deal with all the problems the cancer of Leftism has brought.

Listening to the LBC the appetite from callers of both political persuasions has been very weak for a centrist right or left leaning parties. It's going to be Left vs Right for the foreseeable future, and right now Right Wing is growing rapidly and left wing is being rejected across Europe. 7 EU member states have voted in Right Wing... even France and Germany have shown strong growth in the Right Wing.

Things are changing with every election.

LeftyFax,

It wasn't our idea to put a traitor Remainer in charge. A weak and disingenuous Remainer who is trying to dress Remain up as Brexit. Who couldn't deliver a Dominos Pizza never mind delivering a full Brexit.

Yeah but if an immigrant comes into the country with children... they get housing priority over our own people. A revolution is coming eventually.

£500 Billion bailout*

I blame both the Tory's and Labour.

Labour for deregulating the banks, and allowing them to do as they please, resulting in a £500 Billion which is part of the £1.78 Trillion in debt. And for the rampant immigration from countries and cultures who are significantly less likely to produce immigrants in full time employment... leading to sucking the money right out of the system.

The Tory's for not getting the rampant immigration under control and for excessive cuts when trying to deal with Labours mess.

Both of them are rubbish. Labour are far worse, but the Conservatives are rubbish too.

Yeah and the only people to agree with LeftyFax are undemocratic Remoaners. Can't wait to see the Cancer of Leftism removed from Western Governments it's turning our respective countries into sh*t holes.

LeftyFax,

There's Book Smart, and there's Street Smart. You're not the latter.

Yes boot the Tories out of government, I for one won't be voting for them. They are as leftist as they come on immigration. They pretend not to be, but the numbers speak for themselves.

Labour will be even worse, I hate the two of them. Neither are fit for purpose.