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LTI,

I know that mate, hence why I don't like it. There will be a defining moment when most of our population realises this too. For now heads are in the sand, and some even attack those who warn of this, because it's easier to do that than have the courage to speak about it.

Religion is a belief system, anyone is free to believe in it or not. The second it tries to change what I should think, do or say. Then it becomes a political system.

Well we already know Treason May was talking about an extension to the transition period up to 2023. I wouldn't be surprised to see this happen.

But we also know the plan discussed at Chequers is not Brexit anyway. I've joined UKIP, and given them a donation. The fight begins.

"just wondered if you've “gone native" + "BTW not inferring that all peeps from this area hold these views" = Doesn't add up.

Why not just tell the truth, you think people in the North East are against Muslims? Which by the way has no basis in either evidence, nor fact. You contradicted yourself completely. I'm not trying to start a debate with you mate... but lets not kid a kidder.

TFE,

I've been in the North East for less than a year. I've lived all over the UK, I've lived in India for a couple of years too. My views have been shaped by many experiences, including research, but I can honestly say the North East is not one of them. I don't like Islam, and I really don't like Sharia Law. Muslims are people, all people are born Atheist.. I don't have a problem with "people" as long as they don't try to force their beliefs on me or Western Culture which then affects me.

This video explains exactly what I think. https://youtu.be/pSPvnFDDQHk

escalate*

If I'm honest I think the entire world is going to descend into Chaos. I'm sure QZ will try and chin me for that. But everything is adding up. There's Extreme left wing politics fighting against Centre right politics all over the West and to a lot more intense level than anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.

And the Centre Right is starting to say the left is trying to cause a civil war, I've honestly lost count the number of times I've seen "Civil War" mentioned on someone's Twitter comment, and there's videos going viral saying we should be getting prepared for it.

Maybe this won't happen... but I can see nothing that's suddenly going to stop it. The left is trying to get Trump impeached, working furiously on it every single day. Maxine Waters of the Democrats has called on Democrat supporters to mob anyone in the Republican congress or administration of Trump.

Germany is fuming with merkel, The UK Leave voters are for the most part fuming with Theresa May and the Conservatives. So many things happening just now and a hell of a lot of anger.

I see the EU fighting against him to the bitter end, same for Canada. Because that's Left Wing politics vs Right Wing politics... so a lot more than just countries fighting over trade.

China might back down because they're just communist. But they also have a lot of money in reserves to fight a protracted trade war.

I don't know with China to be honest. But even if China backs down, the others are unlikely to. So I expect the trade war to escalated for a long time.

Ok.. your actual thoughts on the points made? Clearly you knew what I meant despite the spelling mistake.

haha it never fails. A lefty who doesn't like what's being said corrects spelling. No discussion about the point made, just spelling.

You do realise you look pathetic if that's all you've got? A spelling mistake doesn't discredit the point silly billy.

Common Rule Book (AKA Customs Union) = The UK follows the EU's rules on trade, and as such is subject to EU Judges Rule.

Mobility Framework (AKA Freedom of Movement) = No Visa's totally different treatment of EU citizens than non EU Citizens for immigration purposes. All they have to do is fill out an application form to work or study in the UK. It's a watered down version of Freedom of Movement, but there's hardly any difference.

And you don't find issues with it? I know you didn't care about the immigration part, but the majority of Leave voters did as was evidence in successive polls with it being the number one reason to leave.

Voted, discussed it doesn't matter how they came to the same conclusion which was to dress up Remain as Brexit. The news reported that they all fell inline. So the news must be lying then. If I was one of those Mp's I'd have told her I'm resigning my seat immediately and forcing a by-election.

If every one of the gutless/selfish brexiteers did that she wouldn't have a government... she's a minority government held together by the skin of it's teeth. They should do the admirable thing and say they can't get behind her treachery and just quit.

If they did that, bye bye Conservative government. No need for 48 signatures, just quit so she doesn't even have a minority government, guarantee you some of those seats would be lost due to her treachery and the government would be toppled.

On the 23,000 I couldn't care less if thoughts are not illegal... if they want to harm British people, that goes for Peaceful Muslims, Christians every religion and none. If they are suspected of wanting to harm British people, they should be interned until they can pass a lie detector test. If they pass it they get set free and scrubbed off the £9 Billion a year list, free to live their lives... a list that costs us £9 Billion when we can't even fund out NHS.

It's absolute madness. And the anger in this country is only going to get stronger until the politicians openly speak about the problem and deal with it properly. We're reactive, rather than proactive. We sit and wait on someone trying to attack us, rather than go straight to them, lie detector test them and detain them if they fail or refuse it.

A peaceful person is not going to care about helping the authorities with their inquiries.

We'll see how "pragmatic" it looks at the next general election. With time what ever piffle they agree with the EU will be reversed when the right wing take over the countries parliament. So many angry people will lead to that.

"It took LTI of all people to tell you the government didn't vote on May's paper. You still think the Cabinet did. They didn't."

Ok who exactly voted to agree Remain dressed as Brexit then? Who voted at Chequers? And why does it even matter, the results are still the same. Conservatives went into a building and Theresa May emerged with Remain dressed up as Brexit.

"You advocate making thousands of even innocent people take lie detectors by force"

If they're innocent, then they won't mind taking the test to rule them out of the investigation into unearthing who the dangerous ones are. I'd happily submit to a lie detector test to prove that I don't want to harm Britain or it's people. Anyone who has a problem with that is obviously hiding something.

The only people I would want to force to do this would be those on the 23,000 Terrorist watch list. Why would that be a problem for you? Don't you think the true intentions of the 23,000 should be known?

I'm a Pro Zionist, I have massive respect for the Jewish people. So to compare me to a Nazi is just another feeble attempt at labeling to discredit the points I made, none of which you've actually addressed. All you've done is try to steer the discussion away from it or try to discredit the links even when respected mainstream media links were also used showing exactly the same thing. Do you honestly think people can't see that?

Sky News
The Independent
The Telegraph

Is not poison, all of which detail exactly the same points I made about Saudi Arabia.

Jayfax,

I'm still waiting on an answer to my question... in the light of the fact that Theresa May's governement dealings with Saudi Arabia is all over Mainstream Media too.

"Do you acknowledge that this looks very dodgy or not? Put Brexit to one side for a second. My argument is about Theresa May with or without Brexit there's clearly a stench of corruption here?"

Or will you try to deflect again by changing the subject to someone else? As far as I'm concerned "ALL" Western Governments should cut ties with Saudi Arabia completely. The safety of our citizens is more important.

Jayfax,

Ok lets for arguments sake say that Gatestone is dross. The point on that Gatestone link is also on the mainstream papers I mentioned.

You probably won't believe me. But I connected the dots of all of this before I even clapped eyes on the Gatestone website. In fact the first time I ever seen that Gatestone website was this morning when someone on Twitter posted it.

So as far as I'm concerned I couldn't care less if Gatestone is dross. The same content is all over Main Stream media, Sky News, Telegraph, Independent etc etc

So this "particular" topic is clearly not dross even if Gatestone is.

LTI,

Oh there's absolutely Zero doubt the numbers are far, far more than 23,000. The Pew Research conducted polls on radical beliefs across more than 60 countries. One of the question was "do you think suicide bombings are sometimes justifiable"... extrapolating the results, the figure was 104,000 UK Muslim believe that "suicide bombings are sometimes justifiable"..

Obviously that's still a small minority, but it's not a small minority... it's "nou camp stadium" not having enough seats for those who had this belief.

This link is to a video presented by a Sunni Muslim Women from the anti extremist Clarion Project. She's one of the brave souls who has the courage to speak about the problem for what it is, despite regular death threats. This talks about the polls... but to see each individual question it can be found on the Pew Research website.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk

Jayfax,

Do you acknowledge that this looks very dodgy or not? Put Brexit to one side for a second. My argument is about Theresa May with or without Brexit there's clearly a stench of corruption here?

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-accused-of-using-secretive-deals-to-sell-arms-to-saudi-arabia-11278466 Sky News 56% increase in secretive arms deals.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-terrorist-funding-report-saudia-arabia-focus-not-publish-conservatives-government-a7766381.html Independent on Theresa May's government stopping the release of a report into who's funding radicalisation in the UK. What conceivable reason could any government have for suppressing this information? You'd have to be an absolute fool to ignore this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4382734/PM-lines-massive-1-6TRILLION-share-deal-City.html 1.6 Trillion Saudi Aramco Float. Feel free to attack the daily mail.. London is in the running for the Aramco float regardless of who floats it.

If anyone can't connect those dots... I'm astounded.

Every single thing stated on that Gatestone link is backed up on multiple mainstream newspaper links.

Is the telegraph dross? Is the Independent dross?

What paper qualifies as not dross in your infinite wisdom. You cherry picked only one link I provided and ignored the rest. What next a bash at the daily mail ignoring the Telegraph and Independent links?

This is what Leftists do, when they've run out of arguments they try to discredit the source. You're actually defending Theresa May as she's delivering the attack on democracy you need to stop Brexit.

Pond life.