Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
It must be true.. it said so here (again)! https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/1037308/union-jack-oil-tipped-for-significant-upside-as-new-wressle-estimates-impress-1037308.html
Can anyone make any sense of this please?
Hargreaves Lansdown (Nominees) Limited 8.02%
Interactive Investor Services Nominees Limited 8.00%
Interactive Investor Services Nominees Limited 7.86%
Barclays Direct Investing Nominees Limited 7.54%
Hargreaves Lansdown (Nominees) Limited 6.24%
‘some have sold lately’
you mean those that wait for a buy and then decide within 30 mins that they desperately need to sell their shares that they could have sold yesterday for more. no! every buy is being ‘stolen’ and ‘sold’ imho, just as they have been for a long long time, including the buy backs (could be why they’ve stopped) and including mine every time i bought even on very quiet days. And just as the previous rapid rise when hundreds of ‘buys’ a day occurred, when those in control decide, they will make their fortune again. “markets”? i don’t think so!
UJO24.. I worked that out on first posting!
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Every single day for a few years, every single buy (including the 6m buy backs) have been ‘sold’ within the hour. It is very very obvious!! that the shares are being borrowed and sold. until those that are doing this decide once again to close that position (and make a fortune.. so sure will happen), we just have to settle for the revenues to increase and dividends along the way. when buys are sold every single time, is clear that for a long time there are those that have the ability to borrow the shares (no doubt posting on here), all IMHO. If DB cancelled 1m I’d bet there would be a scramble to close that short. The whole thing stinks, and it’s not the fault of DB. Certainly need to see a dividend. Its all going quite well as far as i can see, apart from the sp! So obvious what’s going on!
Id rather receive that reward and see the rush to buy at under 20 if you reckon it would drop 2p. I don’t think at this at sp it would fall on xdiv. It may have at 30p but not down here. the sp is bonkers, and the 6m buys imho have been shorted like the rest of the buys. sell a few thousand and the sp falls 1p. buy 6Mil and the price falls more. well that makes sense doesn’t it?! it stinks!
A 2p dividend might have an effect. Certainly got the cash and certainly irrelevant regarding a further fall, as those that control the sp would rush to close the shorts sooner. Needs to jump above the trading gap on some good news or there will be an even quicker fall next cycle.
So long as whilst we wait the money invested earns a near savings rate interest I'm not too troubled.
I think your suggestion Heid would good. Any ex-div drop is irrelevant whilst those that control the sp can apparently achieve what they desire in a matter of days.
But if you bought the shares in the first place, that’s just not playing the game. surely you need to borrow the shares that someone else just bought, then sell them and buy them back at the predetermined low point to be totally strategic.
Mind you… I too might join the game on the next round
It doesn't defy logic Lenin if electronic share purchases are able to be borrowed and sold shortly after purchase. That would in fact explain everything imho. Now can you think of any peoples that might wish to do that? The casino stinks!
So why if you reckon sp is only worth 20p would you invest in them at 20p?
do you assume that shares being bought raises the price? yes so do some of us on here.. not only when we bought them, but the 6m buy backs.! imho they’ve all been leant out for orchestrated shorting in this casino, including mine minutes after each purchase. was it Shore that said the sp is worth 170p?