Could affect the share price if this comes off
https://www.viritech.co.uk/news/pvhm9gnvnoxe77znspt5jcoekmgugz
@visitinghost
The heating thing is a non starter tbh and was only ever touted for people living across the road from hydrogen production.
Which is exactly what is proposed.
The news head lines were just scare mongering rubbish.
All areas talked about in the switch have large scale H2 production in the area.
Adding that link has just shown me how little you have actually researched any of the UK projects.
@visitinghost
I work on major construction jobs all over the UK.
I know of 3 massive Hydrogen projects kicking off in the UK.
I know of 20 H2 fuelling stations to be built in the North west alone.
I know their are sites being powered be H2 right now.
I know there was a very successful back up sub station generator test done a few weeks ago.
I expect to work on atleast one of these projects.
BEV will never solve all the needs we have its impossible.
Lithium demands,power generation demands alone rule it out.
@visitinghost
Yout talking utter rubbish.
Also you may want to check out JCB,Doosan,Cummins(CAT),Volvo,Scania,BMW,Mercedes on H2 road and construction use.
There are many more just got bored of making the list.
Master Musk makes a tweet and fanboys become experts over night??.
@testpack3 JCB built a 21tonne H2FC machine before they decided on going with H2 ICE.
They didnt like the cost,maintenance or durability in the field.
All JCB fitters will be able to work on the new engines onsite with minimum training due the the many similarities to the old diesel engines.
This is very important.
Unlike a car you cant just take a 50t machine to the garage,most repairs are done onsite.
This was a significant problem on the fuel cell model bit i dont know why.
Doosan and CAT(Cummins) are reportedly working on their own versions.
@PaddyFly if you look on google maps you will see Eastham Metals.
Right next to them is a large area of waste land.
All the concrete has now been removed and is currently being crushed.
The ground is being stabilised and I think some piling may be going on.
After looking a bit closer it could be a nice barge trip upto Protus.
All guess work though,but options for Peel are available.
@paddyfly it’s further down the M53 by the Vauxhall factory.
But not so far a way to make sorting a shredding plastic a problem.
Plus it’s already an industrial area so there shouldn’t be the objections from residents ect about extra wagons.
I don’t see much happening in Elton until the planning for the rest of the site is sorted out.
Its frustrating but understandable.
I was at the Kestrel site the other day (approx 5 miles down the road by Vauxhall)
The lads doing the ground works told me that the plans have changed a lot over the past 12 months with no definite on what will be put up on there yet.
I’m taking that as the back up plastic park.
There is already a glass recycling plant next door to it and the area is huge easily large enough for what they want to do in Elton.
So as far as I’m concerned it’s just a delay not a massive problem if the planning doesn’t go peels way on the Protus park.
@testpack3
PHE are in no way focused on only H2 production.
The process they have developed can produce a number of very profitable by products.
But to think hydrogen is a non starter is just plain wrong.
I don’t know if your from the uk but I can tell you HGV’s,Construction Machinery,Industrial equipment,shipping and cars are all looking towards H2 power in the very near future.
The reason PHE is linked so tightly with it is because the first plant is in Ellesmere Port, the centre of the Hynet project which as of last week PHE joined.
@testpack3 I thought that reply was a joke at first.
1. I said I didn’t know PHE’s DMG process as it’s under NDA, don’t take that as I don’t understand DMG though.
2. I said steam was used to control the temperature.
When I got home it was cold so I turned the heaters on.
Hot water did not spray from the walls heating me up as that would be bloody stupid.
I imagine steam is used to heat rods in the vacuum and is then repurposed and re used.
I don’t know as I’ve not seen the plans.
3. You seem angry about this ?
Isn’t this new technology something you want to see work? And if not why?
@mjallen you are right the PHE process is under NDA and they have said it’s very good at plastic/rubber break down.
But I imagine all DMG plants run in a pretty similar fashion with some tweaks that make the difference be it lower energy needed,better synthgas yield from plastic or dealing with highly toxic materials.
I’ve seen and I’m investing in all of them and will add more as and when they become available.
@Piltick I’ve read the extract,my knowledge of DMG comes from a different companies doing a very similar thing.
Steam is used to control the heat allowing for different qualities in the synthgas depending on what you what the end result to be.
As you know it’s not just hydrogen or synthgas that can be produced by PHE process.
Most of the processes I’ve seen have always “baked” the wasted in a vacuum chamber.
I’ll admit I don’t know PHE process but this seems to be the norm.
It’s why those of us who do know a bit about DMG are truly baffled by the incinerator comparison.
@testpack3 a vacuum has been used in more than one similar DMG process,infact it’s pretty important to the process.
I don’t know if PHE use this process true but due to my research and seeding similar companies I think it’s a safe bet.
Please tell me why you think this is incorrect?
@Audible I’m going to treat this a genuine question but as you have researched EU grant status I am wondering why you didn’t research the DMG process.
https://www.powerhouseenergy.co.uk/faq/
Follow that link for the difference in incineration and DMG.
I’m not 100% on all aspects of the process and I know there’s a few methods.
But pretty universal is steam heating and the process happening in a vacuum.
If you can show me a incinerator using this process I’d be very surprised.
This project is promising but small compared to the Mersey tidal power project.
The Orkney project with Orbital marine power has been running a couple of years now and so far the results have been amazing.