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I thought that it would be interesting to know what percentage of voters of the various parties voted for Remain and Leave.
Cons 39/61,Labour 65/35,lib dem 68/32,UKIP 5/95, Green 80/20.
I must admit that i had a little chuckle to see that 5% of UKIP supporters voted to remain----talk about being confused (LOL).
During the Second World War the UK were able to fool the Germans into believing that we were going to land troops in Greece instead of Sicily. The deception was code named "Operation Mincemeat".
Now we are attempting to fool the EU into believing that we are full steam ahead for a no deal brexit. It has the code name "Operation Brussels Sprouts". I sincerely hope it works and the EU fall for it hook line and sinker and capitulate into solving the Backstop issue so we can all move on.
Look at this way.
Imagine we were trading with USA, Canada, Australia, India, China, Commonwealth Countries etc and traded with the EU under WTO rules.
Would we reverse this arrangement in order to deal with the EU.
I don't think so.
Brexit will be difficult at first but the UK is a respected Trading Nation and will have no difficulty whatsoever in forging new relationships with the rest of the world.
Trading with the EU would not suddenly stop because we would revert to WTO terms.
Brexit will only be a catastrophe if the UK did absolutely nothing and that isn't going to happen.
Are you serious...?
The UK public voted to leave the EU. The EU members didn't vote to lose the UK as a trading partner. The EU is already on shaky ground with a multitude of problems and the last thing they need is to have thousands of angry French, German and Spanish fishermen losing access to British waters, EU farmers losing access to the UK market not to mention hundreds of thousands of EU factory workers losing their jobs because of the NI backstop that they do not give two hoots about. The EU will fall apart and while the UK is forging new trade deals with the rest of the world the EU will wish they had not treated the UK with so much disrespect.
The EU need to be shown that the UK Government is really serious about going ahead with a no deal scenario.
All the EU has to do is guarantee a Get out clause and that can literally be drafted and attached to the existing negotiated deal in a few hours (not days, months or years).
We should tell the EU that we now consider that they are unwilling to compromise and that no deal preparations will now commence immediately. Any money spent between now on no deal preparation and the EU capitulation will be deducted from the final divorce payment. That should concentrate their minds somewhat.
Boris Johnson is an intelligent buffoon who has a mouth that is totally out of sync with his brain.
Dominic Raab is clever but is an opportunist who has spent five minutes in a Senior Government position.
Amber Rudd - - - Who???
Jeremy Hunt - - Intelligent and even though a Remainer he is not a diehard and could unite the party.
David Davies--Intelligent and made of stern stuff (ex SAS reservist). He has a reputation for being lazy but may be unjustified because he was a Brexiteer who was being sidelined from Brexit talks.
Michael Gove - - Untrustworthy.
Jacob Rees Mogg--extraordinary clever but too extreme to unite the party. Having said that i would absolutely love to see him with Donald Trump at a White House press conference--the Americans would marvel at his intellect especially when compared to the Moron they have managed to elect into office.
All this however, is probably academic because TM will win the vote of confidence. If this happens then i think that her deal with the EU will prevail because there's simply no real alternative.
Poppop, nothing that has mass can travel faster than the speed of light. Einstein was of the view that Entanglement (spooky action at a distance) was similar to a box containing a red hanky and another box containing a blue hanky at other ends of the universe. When you open one box and see a red hanky the other box contains the blue hanky and that becomes instantly apparent. Anyway, enough of Physics. What is the general feeling about how the stock market will fair tomorrow given this weekends events.
The twin split experiment proves that particles only exist in waves of probability and only become apparent when observed. The Brexit agreement only exists at the moment as probabilities and will break down when discussed (lol).
I believe the draft agreement is at the limits as to what both the EU and UK would have liked the agreement to contain. It contains pros and cons in equal measure for Remainders and Brexiters. I think most people just want to get it over with so we can get back to some form of normality.
It will now go to a vote in the Commons and i think that Brexiters and the DUP will eventually be persuaded to either vote for the agreement or abstain. This will leave the Labour Party with a huge dilemma because they stand to alienate millions of the voters no matter what way they decide to vote. I do believe that the Government will win the vote because the alternative is going back to square one and hardly anybody has the appetite to do that. If the agreement is passes in the Commons then lloyds will hit 70p almost immediately.
I don't think many will want to sell lloy at this current price. Normally, i would be concerned about a sudden drop in SP but in this case it is entirely due to outside factors and nothing to do with Lloyds performance. I do actually think that the current situation will resolve itself as both the UK and EU would prefer a deal rather than no deal. I think it just needs a bit of out the box thinking eg suggesting to the EU that after one year of the new agreement they will abide by a stay, leave, status quo vote in the commons. Again, i am just going to imagine my holding is a long term bond paying a really good interest rate.
The stock market should be well into positive territory tomorrow.
I think Labour will have a dilemma now on whether to back the agreement in Parliament. I think the ordinary person in the street just want any agreement so they can get on with their lives without all the uncertainty Brexit has caused.
Theresa Mays statement has been delayed due to the cabinet meeting overrunning. Crikey, that's probably not a good sign. The SP fell sharply in the last hour which was probably due to the noise filtering out of the Cabinet meeting and being relayed to the City brokers.
I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Cabinet room today. If the meeting finishes with no resignations then we can expect the Lloy SP to fly well over 60p. The main problem is that it is now too late to scrap the agreement and start again so it's either accept this deal with all it's obvious flaws or walk away with no deal. If i didn't hold lloyds shares i would prefer the latter.
Lloyds SP bounced back by 0.4p when Mr Raab gave a thumbs up whilst leaving No10.
Why can't we get him to stand outside Lloyds HQ and give all the passers by a lovely big thumbs up until the SP reaches 70p then we can all jump ship - - just a thought.
It appears that Theresa and Olly will need to hone their negotiation skills over the next few days and weeks.
It is well known that London Taxi Cab drivers love to haggle over fares so why don't TM and Olly hire cabs and then try and negotiate the fare down once they have reached their destination---what brilliant practice this would be ahead of negotiating with the EU.
Warning - - - Please don't create a mental picture of this taxi cab scenario if you are easily offended by the frequent use of bad language.
As there seems to be a "Secret" agreement between the UK and the EU that solves the backstop problem and smooths the path to a soft brexit i wonder who on this BB will accurately predict what the Lloy SP will be at close of business tomorrow. No prizes, just bragging rights for whoever manages to get closest to the closing price. My prediction is 62.4p