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Thanks bud

Does anyone know if the short positions have dropped today?

Sorry to ask but I don’t have ortex

Thanks FSA.
And I agree I don’t think NC are the enemy here either
….but at the same time I would opine that it’s naive to think that they will bail us out if we get in a muddle! Business is business at the end of the day.

Hi Ben,
I’m not suggesting SD has done anything wrong at all. He always inherited a poison chalice because he was following the man who took the share price from 0.5 to 38p (GH) so until the SP goes above that level he won’t get any recognition.
He is building a team - I get that. A good team? - time will tell. A crew is only good if the captains decisions are right!
The placing - this could have been handled better no doubt. To do a placing at a discount and then release an RNS that shoots the SP up is never going to win any popularity contests. I don’t think it was done well but then I’m not au fait with the ins and outs of raising money as a plc company?
To say they had to do a placing because the shares are sticky and hard to get hold of is, in my respectful view, conjecture. Why didn’t they get a bank loan against the 5% NC are about to buy? That should have been easy if the values are easy to ascertain? Is this possible, or indeed, are they able to under existing deal done with NCM?
Just to be clear - I’m not bashing GGP or SD here. I’ve been in this share for 2 years now and like everyone genuine PI here I want the value to skyrocket. I’m just trying to answer your question objectively.

Yes I agree the lassonde curve is very relevant here - could that be why we have a large amount of shorted shares?
But then it could be GGP are using ****e brokers who are allowing the manipulation to happen (if indeed that is what is happening?) Does this even happen on stocks or is it just what people on BB’s surmise?! This whole thing is a massive headf**k.

One thing I do believe is that if people think Newcrest are going to be nice and pay GGP loads of money for the 5% to be nice is far fetched. Their first second and third concern is their profit and their shareholders. I agree that they need to pay fair value, or the appearance of fair value at least, so as not to effect their own valuation on their existing ownership, but not to the point where they are going to not try and get it cheaper than ‘market value’. What they pay will not be the true ‘market value’ as the asset is not going onto the market so we will never know what ‘true market value’ is, it will be based on a theoretical exercise - the same as in getting your house valued for 250k, which will be based on market comparable sales elsewhere within the geographical vicinity, but then when you put it on the market you get 300k because you had lots of bidders who really want it.
Plus, They can always get their existing holding revalued by another expert/valuer after the deal is done with GGP if needs be. I work in property and I can tell you that valuers/experts don’t have a scooby compared to the people who are actually doing the deals in the first place - they are *****s to the highest bidder plain and simple, and they can and will be influenced by the people who want the value to be as high as possible!

There is something fishy going on, and I can’t work out what it is. It might just be there is a seller or there is something obvious that I and others on here are missing but I am yet to find it!

Sorry - another rant *face palm*

None of this make sense to me…..WTF is going on?!
We get a huge £3m buy, and with that far far more shares being bought than sold, and the share drops.
Then today we have only slightly more sells than buys, and the SP drops. ???? WTF

I’ve been in this share for over 2 years now, I’ve seen and heard it all on this BB I can tell you. I want to believe the shorting argument that hydrogen makes as he seems like a genuine guy who is enthusiastic about GGP (from what I see on here anyway) and what he says seems to have some logic (in the context of my limited knowledge or shares and the stock markets anyway) but the other side of me says this whole thing is rigged and I should just stick to what I know in my day job.

I have a lot invested here on the back of the fundamentals that I have researched as anyone with common sense would see the logic that this is a company that can and should have a significant SP increase, but I am very concerned that the people who really control this are guna screw us lowly PI’s over royally.

Rant over. Apologies. Don’t want arguments just making a point hoping there are others who feel the same :)

“Pathetic” hahaha that was quality :)

its running now...... :)

big sell??

Does anyone know what the buys / sells ratio was today please?

Why are you so bothered? If everyone here is making such a bad decision that’s their choice.

What is this incessant need you have to change everyone’s minds? You’re clearly the same person making up new accounts to get on this board, don’t you have anything better to do?

Is there actually an announcement tonight?

I agree but I must confess I am struggling to stick with it now as it seems the downward trend just isn’t stopping. I hear everyone saying that the sp is being “manipulated” etc etc but how are we meant to assess whether that is indeed the case or not?!
The point is it’s just depressing now. What was a source of pleasure has become a source of pain ie looking at the daily SP

Reminds of the Enron skit from the Simpsons lol

Yes. Been invested since May last year bud.

I think you’re right in principle but we have all waited long enough now. This share has basically become a joke since GH left - it’s been downhill from there with scandalous goings on, be it shady director share dealing (or lack of it in SD’s case), lack of news, sp manipulation and dilutions ever since.

The recent capital raise was one of the most mishandled PR disasters I’ve ever seen. SD seems to have this innate ability of making things worse every time he does an interview.

If results are supposedly coming this week, it doesn't bode well if there are big sells beforehand.
Everyday I kick myself for not selling out at 37p
.....sure I'm not the only one.

But if a stupid question but where do the MMs benefit from manipulating this? Keeping the sell price down to scare PI’s into selling…..is that it?

Sorry for the silly question

This has to be the most manipulated share on aim.

What does that mean then ?

Think these are sells not buys as the price is at the lower end indicating a sell. The buys would be at circa 24.50 at that time.

IMO