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I dont think so. All profit this year is from investments prior to the start of the current C19 crisis. Its well hard earned cash . If I was them I would want it out the way asap. I'd get everything in the accounts this year to show the investing is working to build confidence and so it didn't show in next years results so any big gains in next years results aren't to embarrassing if you get my drift. Recon your right they've done well though and aren't panicking about addressing the market but just recon they, especially their accounts team are ran ragged with new orders/instructions, open book negotiations and oh yeh....end of month and year accounts. Id expect a week or 2 delay, they wont want to pi55 shareholders off to much IMHO.

Long time before we see the benefits of the latest new with much that can happen in between IMHO so all don't be fooled into the next pump and dump. I'm a holder just wait it out and it will come up steady over time.

Same here Thordon, my main investment. Think we both have the same faith in this one and plenty of backing to support it. Its as good as it gets out there at the moment IMHO. Some good chat on the ADVFN bb at the moment too hey. Few of the guys seem to have their finger on the pulse there too. We'll soon see where this is at hey but I recon there'll be some MM pi55ing about with this one when the news breaks. Although honestly I am expecting too see some short duration turbulence during an adjustment followed quickly by a steady raise. Still recon this will move up past 25p quite quickly after that though.

What ever the news this share is getting watched closely by significant investors I feel and it may go up and down before it takes off. I think the results will be positive and ultimately there will be a good push up but before that happens the way they are playing with the shares and price spreads there will be a some up and down so the right people can get in at the right price and might take balls to hang on in. Recon some big dealers are hedging their bets here though IMHO. I just get the feeling its being held down at a safe entry level. All, do your own homework, just gut instinct but I've put my money where my mouth is here.

Thordon, yeh not bothered theres always a rejig at these type of stage changes and whatever happens, either UK is going bust and were all screwed anyway, which I don't really think, or this share is going to the top so Im in either which way Im _n-long. Im in profit but its irrelevant because I'm looking at 50p before I take a slice out to place else were and I cant see anywhere better than here at the moment. I think the MM's started holding shares last Friday, a lot and said that then and I could still sell 20k and since at 11.75 and I cant see any other reason than they are doing a little bit of short term investing i.e. they feel confident that its going to rise significantly. You know anything that might contradict that or any other thoughts on the matter other than them playing peaks and dips?

Is that your latest 'analysis' Thoth? Impressive as usual.
Lads dont waste your time....Doesnt know 'what were talking about', clearly and 'guesses' a lot apparently..last week 5p then 2.5p now its 7.5p.... he guesses....at least its going up........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Lol....Thoth2 has crawled out of his hole almost with his tail between his legs. Go and do something useful for once, build an ant farm or something, get away from your screen. Is it at 5p no is it at 2.5p no. You know jack about business and investing. Tell you what put a few k in say 20k or something and then comment. Don't mind someone being arrogant as long as they're bright. Oh, you owe Thordon a nosh.....I think you'll find its he who owns you...open wide... :-o

See some large trader hit the target SP. I trialed a sell of £20k and they would accept it no problem at 11.5p. Lots of freed up shares now and suspect their are punters on the other side willing to buy from the MM's at this SP. Soon see...

As we expected Thordon looking vgood. I used analogy in one of my earlier emails. You wouldn't sell BEA shares if you were going to war. We want a steady rise which is good do for the SP the company and will contribute to stabilising the wider economic platform.

As I said a week or so ago 100% ish utilisation in government contracts is solid, will probably get some up front for mobilisation purposes. They should be in profit now or well on their way and well set up what ever happens now...Think this ship has sailed IMHO.

Maybe 20% + profit by next interims with a projected 20-21 yr revenue of say 120m + possibly more?????

Funny, couple of £10-ish sales gone through to try and make it look like its red moving down. Same old same old....

Hell Thoth, sound like a conversation this. The way I see it and I could be wrong obviously but it satisfies me and everyone has got to satisfy themselves. Cash is important your right but at their last interim they had 9m cash. Not profit I know but I think they handle cash well. They are a growing PLC and so yes some borrowing but sensible placings is the way to expand without debt. Im sure it was in the business plan a long time before it happened now they want organic growth over coming years and cant see a placing for agood while at least, think it would severely damage their credibility now for a long time but again I could be wrong. Not too concerned about the buffer because nearly all their income is steady safe earnings with lots of pensions and government money, reliable payers. They also have nearly 50% T1 Invested money with buffers built in if my knowledge is correct. Revenue has almost trebled over the last 2 years these are growing fast but thats forcast to tail off and rise steadily over the next few years of consolidation/streamlining hopefully with not to much reinvestment for a while, as you say to build a safer buffet or more profit etc. An interesting review by simply Wall Street looks pretty spot on even to the point that they said that they would start seeing profit around now and low and behold they issued their first dividend in February. Should continue to up from here on and they say they are undervalued. This is obviously my opinion and Ive done my research to satisfy me and all have to do their own too but as I say Im in long and only this years accounts will show us where we are now. Now the current crisis is another issue but I think of it like this? if we were going to war I wouldn't sell all my BEA shares. If you get my analogy. Got to make our own call its an AIM share after all but just smashing it down belligerently doesn't help anyone and I'm always interested in searching opinions.

Thoth...What happened to the free fall this Monday now to 5p? Still not a holder but still very interested in pushing this share down, trading lows and highs and taking peoples money. I’m in long have been for nearly a year and it looks like others are holding until the financial report is out next week I’d say. See their very positive interim report below and they still had six months of earning after this with Greenbrook contributing also.

Interim results published by Totally this November gone included "Our overall cash management has been excellent, and we closed the period with £9.0m cash in the bank", 'consolidation with a very strong platform built for organic growth'. Organic growth. No placements required here IMHO. They have invested heavily so yes not allot of profit about then but there's been six months trading between then and now and they are very well placed to consolidate and grow now and years to come. They’ve done are doing what they set out to do. Saying that they still managed to pay out a dividend in February. They are also in the right place to assist the NHS in everyway, full utilisation. We’ll see.

Anyway see extract below and their statement link here. https://www.totallyplc.com/contact-us/#FSContact1

Financial Overview
Group turnover of £40,164,000 (Six months to 30 September 2017: £3,530,000)
Gross profit of £5,689,000 (Six months to 30 September 2017: £1,058,000)
Cash at Bank of £9,002,000 (31 March 2018: £10,224,000)
EBITDA profit before exceptional items £95,000 (Six months to 30 September 2017: EBITDA loss £804,000)
EBITDA profit including exceptional items £1,007,000 (Six months to 30 September 2017: EBITDA loss £784,000)
Operational Highlights
Totally is making progress with its Buy and Build Strategy and continues to integrate new innovative care models into its healthcare delivery pathways.
Across the Totally Group companies;
In excess of £10m new business and renewed contracts have been announced since the previous results announcement (10 July 2018); and
About Health has renewed all of its contracts as well as adding new business to its portfolio
Significant progress has been made in relation to service reviews undertaken by the Care Quality Commission (“CQC”) resulting in 70% of all sites inspected being rated Good.
The pipeline of business contract opportunities remains strong as the Company continues to focus on growth and maximising efficiency across the Group.
The Company remains focused on evaluating value accretive acquisition opportunities to consolidate the UK NHS outsourced healthcare services market, estimated to be worth in excess of £20 billion1 per year.
Post period end Vocare has been awarded a £3.3m contract extension for Staffordshire NHS 111 services until 31 March 2020.
The Chancellor announced an increase in NHS funding of £20.5 billion over a 5 year period in the 2018 budget.

Apologies, fluffed up my SP estimate in the subject box.. Try again That's what I'm set on any ways as per my previous post below No: 16:

"This will only go up over time if the scare mongers tactics don't work and the board remain fair to their investors and level headed. 25p next IMHO if the end of year accounts tell the tail I suspect they will with a bimble up to 50p plus in a year or 2 then after that who know but all have to do their own research and convince themselves".

OK with this, 3 buys to 3 sells and bottomed out, SP is static/stable and sensible people just holding, waiting for end of year positive confirmation of what we long term investors have been banging a drum about. Do for me, steady/stable is good for us all even if we don't acknowledge it.

Thordon,

Just to reiterate some of the positives that where lost in the previous barrage of posts and get some honest objective feed back.

Equity shaeholders funds are £35.886 Million more than current share price, id go with that. Cash in at the moment? Not sure but I would imagine between 10 - 14m What do you think? Personaly I think this belongs around the 50p mark if my projections are correct but all have got ot do their own homework. The Directors have bought tens of thousands of shares each amounting to over 100k. So they appear to be confident about which way this is going, they issued dividends so are sure as can be that they are in profit, bought lucrative earning companies outright with cash, been given new and extensions to lucrative contracts. If one of the previous posters is correct, and I need to look into this, the government are considering 100% possibly of block booking private hospital/care services and repaying on a cost possibly plus basis open book basis. If that's the case that is full 100% utilisation for many years to come. Most companies allow between say 80-90% utilisation in their charge out so I think there is about 20% profit in the scenarios at least. I have worked on government highways design/maintenance contracts on this basis before and we have done very well out of it. We want steady sustainable rise here to keep the day traders at a reasonable level, shorters out and to build confidence in genuine investors. This will only go up over time if the scare mongers tactics dont work and the board remain fair to their investors and level headed. 25p next IMHO if the end of year accounts tell the tail I suspect they will with a bimble up to 50p plus in a year or 2 then after that who know but all have to do their own research and convince themselves.
I'm heavily invested for me and in-long. Expecting dividends out of this company for years to come if all pans out right. Good luck. We all need a bit of that right now....

Thordon, you last 2 posts made good sense but have a few questions in a bit. In the mean time I posted your last 2 positive mails under a more positive new heading. Lets get this board on a level playing field and try and keep it there. Cheers.

Just to add Corporation tax works both ways with the tax system , that being once they start making real good profits all the past can be added to defer tax
So the company if they do not purchase more company's goes organic , they are at the organic stage
Preferred T1 contractor within the NHS , Governments love big company's with turn over

totally base all there transaction in gross.
So the recent purchase was put down in cost as Net Liability , rather then a cost plus of buying the company.
this would of had a effect of break even of company's profit.
As a MD myself can completely understand as Tax profit , if the shares take off more liability in tax profit in company's they own . if they stay the same then a tax credit to the company.
any why its the same in long term in tax just deferred.
Hope that makes sense

No problem. I'm happy with interims, acquisitions and projected figures I think its looking good to be honest.
Good luck to you too. Think both of companies are in the right kind of business for the foreseeable future.

Interim results ok by me. Represent their ideals of going hard to build a very viable and lucrative business very fast. As I said they have growing pains but I'm confident in their ability now to consolidate and make this earn well. Since these figures they have had Green bank paid for in cash earning hard and taken on new contracts and are stream lining. Profit margins gone from 14 to 17% and expecting 20% y ear on year with a HY turn over 50m and 10m up on previous year same half. This year could be way over 100m at 20%. No worries here.

Interim:
Group turnover of £49.2 million (H1 2018: £40.2 million)
• Gross profit of £9.8 million (H1 2018: £5.7 million)
• Cash at Bank of £8.4 million (31 March 2019: £7.5 million)

Thoth,

Wobbly??? Lol..... Like most companies and countries stock markets at the moment so why you've picked on this SP remains to be seen. Still don't know but do suspect your intent. However, most of us probably can read a P&L and Balance sheet etc... my wife also writes them for a major company. What they don't tell you is how well they are actually doing and going to do what their projections are. This company has grown fast and pumped everything back in. Too fast remains to be seen but I doubt it I think they are doing well which is why I'm in. They are in the right place at the right time. Their facilities are apparently doing very well, at capacity and they have lots of scope to help the NHS through this coming crisis "block booking" etc and to deal with the years of backlog patients in coming years. I do a lot of work for the government and have always been paid no matter what and I am convinced they/we will see a large reward for the foresightedness and investing soon. No doubt why Master Investor pumped them up and tipped them saying:

The extra £5bn of NHS coronavirus funding declared yesterday will be a ‘totally’ green light for this company, which has ambitions to become one of the UK’s leading out of hospital healthcare service providers.

Only one way IMHO this company and SP is going and its not south.. IMHO I think this is going to rise fast when the dust settles... I suspect this SP is being talked and walked down to allow some the choice to get in at the right point. The dividend prospects look very good too which is why Im In-Long....... https://masterinvestor.co.uk/equities/totally-already-a-beneficiary-of-coronavirus/

Thot,

I very really post but you absolutely compel me to respond to counter your absolute unfounded negativity. Considering you’re not an investor, have no interest in this company you're trying very hard to undermine holders confidence in this share and quite despicably add to the uncertainty that abounds during these difficult times. I strongly suspect you will have shares in Totally when the SP hits your number. I have been investing successfully for years and been in TLY for many months now and months before any sine of Covid and only now during this current regrettable crisis I absolutely believe that I made the right choice. I am HOLDING.

There are plenty of positive reason to be in TLY and a few of the other posters who also appear to be honest investors have presented well researched and credible information which I don't need to regurgitate here.

Most of what you post appears to be de-ramping rhetoric. The other guys have presented solid facts in my opinion and along with the facts you have to look at other circumstantial evidence to make a best guess at where this is going. There is a major crisis, the government appear to have faith in TLY they extend and give them large and quite lucrative contracts. They are or have become a go to provider and it makes sense that TLY will be supporting them during these very trying times. I believe it will benefit the unwell but also reward loyal long term investors if they hold and don’t give into de-ramping jackals IMHO. They have bought other large assets, are growing fast but not without some growing pains but nothing of notable concern.

I do apologise if your intent is less nefarious than I suspect it might be.

IMHO DYOR etc…………………..