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The energy intensity of ammonia production varies, but typical values range between 8 and 12 MWh (megawatt hours) per tonne of ammonia. Since one tonne of ammonia contains about 177 kg of hydrogen, this corresponds to an energy requirement of approximately 45 to 68 kWh per kg of hydrogen.

In summary:

The production of hydrogen through the Haber-Bosch process for ammonia requires about 45-68 kWh per kg of hydrogen.

Subsequently, cracking the ammonia using AFC Energy's technology requires less than 10 kWh per kg of hydrogen.

Therefore, the total energy consumption for hydrogen production through the combined process (ammonia production + cracking) is approximately 55-78 kWh per kg of hydrogen.

So who has the better technology?

Does anyone have any information on this?

I thought cerees is working with Shell?

Bloom Energy Inc. Signs Agreements with Shell to Investigate Opportunities for Innovative Large-Scale, Renewable Hydrogen Energy Projects.

https://investor.bloomenergy.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/Bloom-Energy-Inc.-Signs-Agreements-with-Shell-to-Investigate-Opportunities-for-Innovative-Large-Scale-Renewable-Hydrogen-Energy-Projects/default.aspx

@bilboburgler: "The silence speaks volumes." -> what do you think that means?
No orders because the product is not good or other problems?

I think today's drop in prices is due to the fact that itm has not managed to clarify how they intend to utilize the existing or planned factories.

* What do they know that we don't know?
* Why wasn't this information shared?
* Linde is the world's largest company in the industrial gases sector. Shouldn't there be masses of orders here?

I haven't heard anything about the development of ITM's technology for a long time.
I think the competition is strong and cannot be ignored.

Can anyone tell me about it?

when will lucrative orders finally come? regardless of whether itm, ceres, afc, plug, etc. it is just not easy to get really good orders.

what is actually being waited for?

it won't be that long until 2030 ...

I wonder how we want to achieve climate neutrality with the few orders for ITM etc.
With this project, there should actually be a number of orders every day ...

https://www.ir.plugpower.com/Press-Releases/Press-Release-Details/2021/ACCIONA-and-Plug-Power-to-Partner-on-Establishing-LeadingGreen-Hydrogen-Platform-for-Iberia/default.aspx

what does that mean for afc energy?