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Happy days sorry I come across like that nothing adds up here buddy. Hopefully turn out postive. Fear I fear has driven this lower with the shorts attack..I can only hope there will be positive news
Pat some of these funds are going to get badly burnt if there is postive news of big contract wins. My jedi powers tells me pfc are waiting till the 20th of Dec to announce more big wins at the trading update. And to put this bullshi t negative news about the financial situation to rest. So let them short the more they short the harder this will shoot up. There must me millions of pounds waiting on the side lines I reckon. This is just my 6th sense. I first heard in Oct the trading update was expected on the 4th of Dec and then that was changed to the 20th of Dec. Why maybe because it's after cop 28. I know some guys are rubbishing the kamaran guy but he looks to have take a massive position. I wonder if barron is tempted. Let's burn the shorters. Funny how Astaris Capital Management Llp has reduced. They are big time rats. Big time shorters. Something has cooked here. GLA DYOR
Clearly if some news has been allowed to leak out so some of the investors could get out in time then these FFaces should be sued
You guys need to remember here that 96million shares are out on loan !!!! so even the institutional investors are getting a bashing here
Well said PC. You are a good man. Don't worry PFCVetran. All will be good my friend. Once the big seller is out we know what the real situation is all will be good. The big shareholders like Ashfari have mega rich connections. There is no way ADNOC or Hitachi would have awared those contracts. LIke someone said this will be a case study for years to come at university. You see how much shot gamestop were in. When they make a statement you will see this soar. Everyone will be jumping in. Does anyone know when the next shorting update is out ?
Like someone said several times, PFC should have come out today and said lots of media speculation but all is good. Maybe they are at COP28 working on some deals and behind the scene working on new finaince deal. Either way I am sure the compay will survive. It will eventual be a big bounce. Everyone is waiting for it.
Seriously on on morning star there is zero information that schoder sold. There were some big holders who sold out earlier in the year but the share price did not drop like a brick. But some major holder def selling. Soon as the banking credit facility is sorted watch this move and when another big contract hit it will move even higher
Name
% Total
Shares Held
% Total
Assets
Trend
Prev. 8 Qtrs
Current Shares
Change %
Date
HL UK Income Fund A Acc
0.80 0.12
4,170,215
542,632
14.96%
Oct 31, 2023
JOHCM UK Equity Income A GBP Acc
4.13 0.73
21,553,081
528,850
2.52%
Oct 31, 2023
State St Gbl AllCp Eq ex-US Idx SL Cl II
0.08 0.00
—
441,968
441,968
––
May 31, 2023
BlackRock MSCI ACWI ex-US IMI Idx Fund J Not Rated 0.08 0.00
—
429,065
429,065
––
May 31, 2023
Azvalor Global Value PP
1.62 3.89
8,477,283
151,371
1.82%
Sep 30, 2023
Undrly SSgA 50:50 Glb Eq Idx Pen Not Rated 0.01 0.01
72,574
72,574
––
Oct 31, 2023
Momentum Monde
0.01 0.25
—
70,000
70,000
––
Aug 31, 2023
UBS (Irl) Inv Sel Eq Opp L/S Q-PF-Acc
0.01 0.00
42,374
42,374
––
Mar 31, 2023
Undrly AXA Wealth exCol R Eq Inv Pen Not Rated 0.01 0.01
—
45,903
15,152
49.27%
Aug 31, 2023
Undrly FL My Future Consolidation Pen Not Rated 0.00 0.00
7,422
7,422
––
Mar 31, 2023
NT ACWI ex-US IMI Fd - DC - NL - 3
0.03 0.00
155,761
7,104
4.78%
Sep 30, 2023
L&G Future World ESG UK Index L £ Acc
0.01 0.01
40,466
6,700
19.84%
Oct 31, 2023
Vanguard Developed Markets Index Admiral
0.64 0.00
3,339,333
5,592
0.17%
Oct 31, 2023
L&G PMC UK Equity Index 5% Capped Pen Not Rated 0.03 0.02
173,526
5,505
3.28%
Sep 30, 2023
Undrly FL MyM My Future Growth Pen Not Rated 0.02 0.00
91,454
5,056
5.85%
Mar 31, 2023
HL Multi-Manager High Income A Acc
0.05 0.04
241,502
2,550
1.07%
Sep 30, 2023
NT World ex US IMI Fund - NL Not Rated 0.01 0.00
30,058
1,975
7.03%
Sep 30, 2023
Undrly L&G Retirement Income MA Fd Not Rated 0.00 0.00
10,509
913
9.51%
Sep 30, 2023
Dimensional Global Trgtd Value USD Acc
0.03 0.00
160,252
900
0.56%
Oct 31, 2023
Undrly AXA Wealth Equity Pen Not Rated 0.01 0.01
47,158
879
1.90%
Sep 30, 2023
Total (for Top 20) 7.59 39,599,904
2,338,582
Hi All, I got the subscription to morningstar : https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/xlon/pfc/ownership
So I could analyse the major sellers. The prev 8 quarter trend does not give much. Does anyone know how to figure this out. Looks confusing
PFCVentran don't fear man. There is light at the end of the tunnel. These are not the type of people who will let the company burn. Afshari won't let it burn. They fought SFO and came out and they fought the last attack before they burned the sc um and they will win this.
*serves
All I can say is that PFC major shareholder and his family and the CEO are linked to big piles of cash in the middle east.so push comes to shove they are not the type of people to fold and run away. Trust me. So they can all gang up and scaremonger all they like as far as I am concerned this is a cordinated attack on PFC. For what reason, no idea. The reason I am guessing they have really delayed their RNS is because they want COP28 to finish new contracts and use that to get new credit lending agreements which they may or may not be dicussing. But a company sub contracting and hiring like crazy does not look like someone going out of business. We will see might be wrong. Just my logic. Worth watching The Hut Group CEO. He says it all. Banks do not want the company to go into liquidation. Services no puropse to them. If PFC had little contact wins ok. But lots hmmm. Plus the B+ rating and shortly after it drops ? why did the B+ rating company stupid and not do their due dilligence ? Nothing adds up.
Pokerchip is not a troll guys, You all have to be fair with everyone’s opinions. Slapper and Dogger are trolls. They have zero communication skills. If they were able to articulate their opinions properly and maybe few would have listened but cutting and pasting the same reply 20-30 times a day is just not good.
You all have missed one big possibility is that PFC can be acquired very easily. They have an excellent business infrastructure and teams in place with massive order book. Look, it can go bust true but it can also like many other sort it's finances out and become a giant once more. So maybe it will be acquired. Lots of clever tax breaks for the acquiring company taking the debt on. either way these pfc owners will not go out without a fight and being at the cop I am sure there will be new green billion dollar projects announced soon. sit tight. Did PMO not get aquired finally ? will the lenders let this go to the wall ? hmmm .. if I was a lender, the big order book ? more and more orders coming through. This company IMHO has come under cordinated attack. Few months down the line it will be see as such.
Wise owl dilution is a poss but only if they don't reach an agreement with they banks
1million buy order split in 2 about to be executed. Now buys are over 2mil and sel is 700k. I think the bank always look at future business and yes bonds are in the toilet but if they get the refinance then that can be positive and if they come out of cop28 with new contract wins that would change everything. Maybe that is another reason what PFC have delayed their updated till the 20th of Dec after the cop so they can announce more green deal wins.
Schoders may have dumped purely out of politics of the middle east maybe they don't agree on the ME politics who knows, one supports Israel and the other Palestine. But the fact that no statement has been made shows you if something was seriously wrong then they would have had to report it. Starbucks is heavily boycotted in the ME. Sales all time low. I think some are right here. The shorters saw the opp and jumped on it. Realistically what would the share price be if their were no shorters in here ? Yes, the bond prices are worrying atm.
Yes Gary. It is now over 1.91million vs 538. Sell are reducing. average buy is 40k and sell is 20k
Buy vol now almost 2million vs sell vol of 600k - watch it move back up above 22p maybe more if this cont. DYOR. ref Level 2
Too many buyers trying to get in now. OK, so, I am not in denial here. If PFC were about to going to default or in finaincial trouble they would have to report it and release a RNS. The fact that they have not and the other big shorter has reduced just shows you that this is in a short attack who are riding a big investors (schoders) coat tail.