RE: Investors notes14 Nov 2019 13:10
Notes in full. Thanks to cgequityinvest on advfn:
"Some further feedback from yesterday's presentation at Mello.
Most of the background is known so i won't repeat that. Most of the additional insights came from Q & A plus talking to Jeremy Martin and Simon Retter after the main presentation.
In no partic order and based on my notes/interpretation:
1/ They are frustrated with the lack of recognition within the market place for the significant progress made/potential and confirmed that the equity markets are tough. Jeremy reiterated the desire to get the market cap up to £100m asap but some fund managers are "watching and waiting" rather than committing due to a combination of Brexit, trade war, issues with illiquid stocks (Woodford) etc. The fund managers are effectively waiting for evidence of offtake agreements and delivery of debt.
2/ There were asked about Teck being a more major investor/acquiror. JM's feeling is that they are unlikely to want to acquire HZM as they are not a primary nickel producer but they could be interested in a more strategic role/stake.
3/ Simon Retter advised that his and Jeremy's short term focus is to explore all the fundraising options/avenues and determine the optimum route that maximises shareholder value.
4/ Since the Vermelho PFS they have had significant interest from private equity groups and EV manufacturers and have effectively put together a data room of information. One of these interested parties mentioned is Tesla (I got the impression their private equity arm).
5/ JM was asked about the possibility of selling the business now - his response was its not for sale as mgment believe they can generate much more shareholder value by progressing both projects.
6/ Orion's royalty has provided credibility - partic with the banking for Araguaia. Some of the banks will effectively piggyback on the DD completed by Orion. I got the impression that they are looking for Orion to take a significant stake in the debt/equity for Araguaia - with JM suggesting that the overall size of the deal is not far from their average investment. So my interpretation is that the Orion royalty is very much a starter position and they will be a cornerstone/majority funder on Arag going forward.
6/ As part of the financing package for A - they also see interest from stainless steel producers - i guess this is the offtake element.
I asked whether how confident they are about getting the financing in place - the response was robust - it being more a case of determining the optimum route. The team are very busy at the moment meeting interested parties and working through all the options to determine the best way forward.
Apart from the above I asked about the market premium attached to nickel sulphate for the EV market. JM said that the premium of $2000 a year ago has now turned into a deficit of $1000 - i.e. producers have ramped up production before the market has really started to motor."