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"They want to get our shares cheap before the final Dividend payout" that is 100% correct , so now let me think if you offer a good divi[with the sp at 2.5 share to the pound] more peeps buy in to get the divi ,with me so far ? so if we didnt use the money to ,"buy these unloved shares up before the price starts rising again IMHO"by means of buy backs ,the divi could be higher ? if you carry on with the buy backs the sp will rise so less shares to the pound so less % return [divi per pound,so i conclude as i said last week all the peeps calling for mega buy backs have lost a packet by not selling soon enough or are still holding a paper loss and the divi will not make adent in that loss ,so sod the rest we want buy backs boo hoo boo hoo
So yet another case of rich peeps ,knowing very well what they signed up to ,but come the day of reckoning start sobbing its so unfair ,we still owe you money[or you still own part of our house which you now want paying for if we sell it] when are we going to make a proper stand against this stuff , ppi was only misold to self employed not the general public, this car scam ,they knew how much the hp payments were when they signed up if you didnt like the deal dont sign and go down the road to another dealer and see what deal he offers , not sign up and when you have a pile of crap sitting on the drive start crying i which i had never signed , for gods sake grow up ,and as for lloyds get a back bone take them all the way and get them to prove it was lbg that misold them the deal and forced them to sign that would lose half the chaff [if you know what chaff means only us old ones will]
Spread betting companies are calling London’s lead index up by around 53 points, skimmers heaven then
"Who knows, what future direction Brexit and Democracy will take" i dont think you can use both words in the same sentence , the 7 years of trying to reverse the vote and the garbage brexit deal allowed to be passed in the bias house of c [thank god they got rid of berco],certainly is not the type of democracy that i thought this country stood for!! we are the laughing stock of the western world and still prepared to roll over to the eu ,never mind soon be easter with only [on purpose]4 french passport controllers again ,and only 2 with ability to stamp the books ,but that must be brexit fault not the french being armpits
I can only assume with so many calls for a megga buy back ,that so many of you are so sad with the negative sp of your purchases and sod the rest who bought in low and are happy with the sp where it is [fill yer boots 6/7% return] and we would prefer the money to be spent on specials and improved divi , the divi to you wont make a dent in your loses [as you make whoopsies when buying in too high] so you need the sp to rise , yes buy backs will rise the sp ,so why am i not bothered ? because it will only be sometime in the next decade not short term and some of us are on borrowed time and need the dosh now not 2035
"I thought Guinness was a food." 7 course meal in dublin is 6 pints and a packet of tayto
There never was a special divi [there should have been and still should be] it is all part of the game to keep all tempted to stay and not cash out , they treat us like idiots and we act the same and stay, they need idiots like us to stay without long term holders this would collapse over night ,but i dont think they realise how close they are pushing us ,we keep getting told garbage and we have had both sides of all equations ,when we get out of covid and pay a divi this will fly ,when we can get interest rate up we will make lots of dosh to make up for lost divi and time,after the ppi we will soar up etc etc all we have is now covid gone , interest rates are up the sp is down ,ppi gone [22bil lost] rates still down ,very very dubious car claims sp down , gdp up only spain slightly ahead in eu , sp down , new red tape to bring in food we dont even need sp down ,if peeps are stupid enough to buy strawberries forced or imported in january why should that effect lloyds sp ,total con job ,well lloyds bod you have pushed us far enough very soon the rats will jump squeak squeak
Lti you really are a case ,i have concluded that you dont own a single share in lloyds ,and you are so miffed at the amount you have lost in the past that your posts are pure sarcasim ,other wise you have lost the plot no won even g,a,mighty could not buy and sell at such precise times to have an ave so low and get the % you claim go and take some pills , i have plenty to share in cookoo land
Norm ,not january ,if i told you where i live it would make your question look stupid ,there are several uk sites where you can grow all mentioned
Shouldnt make any diff , all you remoaners have been banging on that the eu have/had better standards and the levels will fall post brexit,so as soon as this occurs winge winge ,the veterninary requirements have been in place in all uk plants[as the eu insisted] for years so only eat uk produce , dont buy imports they already cost more to be transported on the high seas ,tesco are advertising pineapples ,strawberries ,passion fruits as everyday essentials ,not in my basket only at the correct time of the seasons , any fruit or veg out of season has been forced in heated glass houses and the worst part[not many green zero veggies know] they green houses are pumped with tons and tons of co2 to force the growing process utter madness
"Exactly who was responsible responsible for wiping £30 billion of the UK economy?"
that will the obr then who wanted 14 days to allow the elete to be given the heads up and insider dealing to be carried out before we knew ,truth hurts , and most that liz truss wanted to do has now been carried out anyway,oh that would be with 14 days notice before hand wouldnt it ?
Lloyds doesnt do international ,the hmgov stopped them,libor is the exchange rates international?
Great idea ,ban day trading [which is the real reason david cameron had to go not ref vote] as well and we can get stability ,if you want to stop day shorting ,if everybody put sell orders on your shares will your broker they [the shorters] would not be able to borrow [which should be made illegal] your shares on a daily basis
I hate consolidation on penny shares as all it normally does is give the bod more wiggle room for more share issues to raise funds , but in lloyds case[dont need funds] i think it would be a very good idea 1 for 20 £8 ish per share that will keep out the unwashed riff raff ,and bring the share numbers down
56 to 65p is the only chance of making losses back ,it was 60 to 70 ,still got a way to go and as soon as break even off skeey,as with lloyds , and capita the days of a rising and staying share have gone the day traders and algos have destroyed the ftse and confidence to stay invested ,before long only computors will be trading we will all be in spoons
Sorry sc
"Put simply, Lloyds have to many shares sloshing around the market and not enough buyers for the stock."
that still doesnt answer the question WHY?
it doesnt matter apart from the amount of holders , less holders= less directions to send the divi too ,
it is only a mathmatical equation £2billion divided by amount of shares ,it doesnt change if you have less shares with the same amount of holders ,if as you say too many shares and not enough buyers ,the more buyers the more directions to send to money too ,
its only idealistic to ex bank managers to have less shares so less work to do if you have less divi letters to post ,but of course it really doesnt matter today as it is all at a press of a button ,as long as the bank is making profit and the amount of holders stays the same it will not make make any difference how many shares there are ,of course [which we are not seeing] if the number of shares goes down the sp or the value of your slice will rise ,one day ten years time ,but to make this more attractive short term [the rest will follow in due time] to encourage investors the bod need to do react pdq, cancel the fairy dust buy backs ,give out a special to pay the longterm holders back for sticking around , as this is sliding down the trusted scale ,with many saying they have had enough , as i have said all my share dealing club have bailed bar me ,so there is about £2 mill less invested and they aint the only ones whos trust has gone , of course this is diluted but by the wrong investors as we noted on friday all other banks held up the gains ,we just got skimmed as normal ,the day traders need to catch a cold and shorters need fingers burnt then we will see sound investment and stability, i never thought i would see lloyds traded like capita or ctea and look what happened to them they way this is going it could happen here too ,have a nice weekend all ,see you monday
Probably all those that claim they have shares at an ave of 24p or less ,dont own any share at all
Does it matter ? the way i see it is half of the money that could come my way doesnt , with the amount of shares out there we [over last 2 divis] are getting 2.5p per year per share , that means with my ave i will get over 7% return ,if no buy backs that would be over 14 % approx ,yes i understand if less shares the bigger slice my holding should be worth but that isnt in my bank account only if i sell up at the right price which isnt happening at the mo with 7 % return , but it wont be long as i have said before i clear off [dont tell me to sod off] ,its wearing thin now no one on the bod is interested in the sh in fact it looks quite the opposite ,i think the 2.5p is very well calculated to keep us suckers hanging on ,and those in negative thinking well that helps a little to the loss , the buy back sucks !!
No brainer hu ,hsbc back to quarterly and a special etc etc ,lloyds share holders can go fry ,buy backs are alledged payback to sh but i dont see any coming my way ,smoke and mirrors ,why do we need to lower the amount of shares ? only to please the odd ones ,profit is the share holders but not allowed to be paid in fear of windfall , pray tell me the difference between a lloyds share holder getting dosh to spend on the high street and a ppi claimer quantative easing
Ry yo no risten jcb ,its friday skimming time as predicted this am