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I thought of calling it a tech company. So assuming it is we have to go to tech company valuations.

Let’s stick to 6p and discuss it again when we get there. A lot of news coming out in the next 12 months without doubt and every + will be a bonus.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/electricity-production-by-source

Here is a place to amuse yourself for a few minutes.

No lignum, don’t think the BOD need to speak to me, I am sure they occasionally look at what is said here, somebody in the office could simply research all news outlets that could possibly have an interest for their readers in QFI. They should have enough knowledge of their product and I would think the end user, in fact anybody that they would need in a supply chain, they need to target them relentlessly, but sensibly. I created a product once but had never thought of how to sell it. My first ever attempt at having my own business. The cost and learning curve was desperate, but I had to learn the hard way, and those lessons I have never forgotten. Believe me if they have not already thought ahead they need to get going. I am sure they have!!

Indigo has made a good estimate, but a PE of 3 and 6p

I would think at 2p earnings per share, this would imply that you expect the trials to all be positive and yes at some point we could generate 2p. But if we get to that the implications are that the company is growing well and would be priced accordingly. It could easily be perceived by the market that QFI is a company with growth of say 100% annually and if this were a tech company with growth like that it would generate a forwards PE figure at incredible rates. 100s of percent. So let’s give QFI a modest 15 x 2 = 30p a share, there’s a 10 bagger for you Indigo.

That is ZOOM so no get together in the ZOO.

Welcome Haych. Nobody knows to what number the SP will rise and in what time frame.

I do believe in the past this has reached around 50 p when we had a very small trial with Maersk, forever known as buoygate. And the KSA debacle which pushed the price to 14p?

At this point we have several known trials being undertaken, each in a different sphere of use for the product. Each potentially groundbreaking. We have a team that run this that keep their cards incredibly well hidden and the following on here keep themselves amused by predicting the end game. We know nothing but assume a lot. We know what the product in the post carbon world is capable of but we need end users that can bring that to life, to the market place. That crucial phase is I feel just a few steps away. All those invested here feel the same way, many have had money in QFI for many years now, some are above their break even point now, some are way below having bought when the share price was flying during past endeavours to get this to market. But recent events in the shipping and industrial world, when it comes to pollution, has placed MSAR as a potential breakthrough in climate change tech., or certainly limiting it. MSAR is readily available and in limitless supply without destroying the planet as with other so called green fuels. We also have a new product being tested, BioMASAR, this in itself could be a substitute fuel for literally thousands of heavy duty, high speed, marine diesels that operate in commercial or leisure sectors.

What’s the SP worth. Well if our present trials come to nothing I will let you guess but as is expected the results from all of the efforts underway at the moment could push the price to maybe a few pounds over the next couple of years as the markets take notice. If all of the potential on offer opens up to us well, have you heard of Tessla, not only will their cars be running on the electricity created in power stations being fuelled by MSAR, those invested here now will be seen as those original investors that have made their fortunes by being invested at the beginning, (although it has taken a while to ignite the engines) You see it all of the time by bragging share pundits, I recommended Amazon when it was 50c a share, you would be worth $135,899,087.87 if you had listened to me then and invested $100.00. You know the stories, Bitcoin in 2014 etc etc.

Well here is your chance. Nobody knows what the price will be in one, two or three years. But if MSAR gets taken up as a fuel that will help to resolve some of the problems that we have at the moment, and the world is without doubt in a mess, a small investment now could well become your pension, and a very good one, in the years to come. You could lose it all as well, nothing is a slam dunk

You take your chances, you invest your money and I do believe their could be a £1.00 party at some point, not sure where, not sure when, but the way things are going we may have to hold it via ZO

It is interesting to see the comments regarding the staff at QFI not promoting this well. I can see senior management maybe thinking that they have such a niche product that there are only a few partner companies around and they can knock on their doors personally if they need.

But they are certainly lacking, well that’s my feeling. I have looked at the QFI website to see if they have a well stocked Media section of recent editorials. Nothing apart from a few videos that people can watch if they already know about our company. But a simple google search brought this link

http://blog.delphianballistics.com/resources/oil-gas-magazines/

When you see that list of magazines, I am sure hard copy and online, in just one sector of our potential marketplace one would have thought that there would be a flood of stuff out there on MSAR etc. A great story and all of these publications and lots more are gagging for original editorial to excite their readers with. Many of these are specific industry publications and most get read by professionals.

All the staff have to do is make it easy for the editors, send very good copy plus some great images and hey presto people all over learn about the benefits and opportunities with our product. Even if we are looking further down the line to the end users, building up the brand is now essential. We have so many things going on that’s Re positive.

It takes a little time for the staff, or they bring in professionals and I can assure you there are plenty around, to get the message out and it need not cost a fortune. The best promotion for any product are free editorials in the right magazines, the story gets read, it’s not hard to achieve and with MSAR they could get an awful lot of people interested in its benefits that could be made available very quickly through existing infrastructure .

News soon !

As good as Bio-methanol sounds just how much would they need to fuel their fleet or just a small part of it, and they are talking of being zero carbon by 2050. And what about the rest of the vessels out there.

To create Bio-Ethanol one has to use the starch mostly derived from sugar cane, or other crops normally used for us humans, and from what I hear a great number of the worlds people are starving. Feed the engines not the people. Also recently nobody could have failed to see the damage being done to the Amazon forests etc and other countries around the world are doing the same, as they turn forest into farmland. Wildlife is becoming extinct through lack of habitat and if this goes ahead it will simply make things a lot worse. They must have their heads up their b***S****.

Surly going forwards using fossil fuels which are still very plentiful and can be adapted and using farmland for the purposes it is meant for has to be the way forwards.

https://marineindustrynews.co.uk/maersk-set-to-beat-carbon-neutral-deadline-by-seven-years/

There are approx. 240 coal powered power stations in the US, all we need is a fuel, MSAR, that makes those stations more sustainable, easier and cleaner to operate as they create the electricity that will power the future.

The US is just one country and so to cap that there are approx 2425 worldwide.

If we can produce an alternative to coal that competes with gas that would be a great start.

The potential is massive.

Also going back to NDA’s, imagine the four companies and many individuals involved in UTAH, the investors, if as we assume they have a product with such potential as MSAR, who takes what chunk of the pie, and if they have a patented system who receives what In royalties if the system is taken to other regions. They would have to work as a group to expand or sell the tech. and sorting that out before an announcement that will drive the share price of each company massively has to be done very carefully to avoid a train crash in the future.

When the announcement is made each company has to be in full agreement, one cannot go dropping hints of this or that to pump their shares, they have to do it in chorus.

Good luck to all LTH here.

They no doubt have American style contracts with Utah and the NDA can be lethal. Be patient and all will be revealed I am sure, the news when it comes will either be disappointing or explosive but I do not think that having come this far they do not have a good idea of the results. If they are positive they will have to put a contractual agreement together if they haven’t already. But in this case no news could be good news. :-)

Here’s to an interesting few months.

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Thank you Indigo, I have no reason to believe that the product does not work but I used the word fail when referring to the times we have become so close only to fail in signing a deal.

Here’s to a good week.

Exactly, from what we know and understand the product has a good chance of success and progressing to a new level very soon could be possible but in the past every project came to nothing as a failed sale is a failed test at whatever level.

But I do see your point Salinger.

More news soon, and that could be on any of the projects, each piece of positive news will drive the product and the SP. that’s just me being positive, the gentlemen in Utah are not doing this for fun, MSC have an image to sell and seem happy to be associated with the brand. There seems to be a great deal of good feeling around.

Had my vaccination yesterday and happy for it ??

Possibly yes but remember in the not too distant past we have undertaken several what appear to be successful trials that all failed for possibly reasons we will never know. Somehow the management here have pulled this company, time and again, back from the brink to be in the situation we now find ourselves in, once more owning a part of a company with incredible prospects. But had it been otherwise QFI would have been sold to the highest bidder in a fire sale, could well have been a shipping company or foreign oil sate, strange things happen in the world of finance.

Yes I guess somebody could bid on the company, but that in itself would attract big oilers or refinery groups to the table. Like tech the value of the shares would find a level way ahead of today based on future prospects.

We would all do very well out of that process and we can take our money and move on with a smile very quickly. Personally happy to hold these for a long time and watch it all play out.

All in all QFI could be a game changer that goes way beyond converting a few tonns of sand or waste oil into a usable product.

Not completely mad. Pulling out as they did allowed them to run with the crowd, at the time they were running their LONO it would have meant setting up refuelling stations for their own vessels and possibly doing it alone which would have been a very expensive exercise and buoygate was a good excuse to ditch the whole QFI experiment. The world of commercial shipping was at the time heading down the route of low sulfur conventional fuels and as a commercial choice in the end it was a simpler decision to take, so long as Mearsk stayed competitive that was all that mattered. From the hours put on their engines and the results obtained MSAR was looking to be a winner but unnecessary at the time. But how things have changed and as mentioned Mearsk and MSI work closely together and are amongst the worlds largest shipping companies and Maersk would have to begin their trials from day one again if they wanted to use MSAR in whatever form, let MCI do their bit and combined the two companies can make this happen, and quickly.

If they are in fact working together on the present MSI trials and if it eventually ends showing success the two companies could work together on bringing the product to bunkering stations worldwide. If they both take up MSAR in whatever form it would bring down the costs of roll out considerable and certainly bring other shipping companies into the fold. It really is not just about one company getting one up on the other or being more competitive, it is about reducing the damage being done by the commercial shipping industry, or for that matter any type of vessel burning diesel on the oceans. The worlds most powerful nations are behind this cleanup. I have no doubt that at some point in the future, maybe fifty years from now there will be vessels floating around the world powered by a technology that as yet remains undiscovered, but for now shipping in whatever form has to find an answer to the damage they are doing and have managed to get away with due to ignorance or stupidity for literally 100 plus years.

So my bet is that once these trials are completed and all of the boxes are ticked the industry as a whole will take up the QFI products globally and it will become mandatory for any vessel that can burn it to in fact, well burn it.

As for KSA, why would they want to be the first to trial this in their power stations when their is the possibility of another country taking that first step. Let somebody else take the risk and if it works not only will QFI have a unit that they can promote worldwide, certainly better than pages of possibly this or possibly that, and certainly better than a nervous Arab in KSA putting his bo*****s on the line, but get that contract signed and we would be on a home run. What would be not to like.

Without doubt if we have success in Utah and we already know we can use the waste from refineries and bio fuels (we hope) their will be an endless supply of MSAR & BioMSAR to supply the demand.

My big buy of a couple of weeks ago came through as a sell and not a buy so not sure what is going on.

4p very soon and then we begin to jump by 1p a day.

The first solid news to come out will double the price as all of those sitting on the fence jump in but what a ride for those that got in over the past few months.

Once this gets on the move we will of course create other opportunities. Going back to my remarks regarding finding a use for chicken s**t, whereby instead of it being a waste product it has a value, the cost of Glycerine by all accounts at the moment is at an all time low and in some ways no doubt puts the lid a bit on producing fuels from vegetable matter, but if suddenly there became a good use for it with BioMsar and in fact there were not enough the value would go up and so would the production of Bio fuels as the value created would be greater, remember a few years back when oil was over $100.00 a barrel, just about every spare field was carrying crops that could convert and pushed up the cost of corn, rape etc etc. Forget feeding the poor, feed the engines and all good for political nous.

I cannot but note we constantly refer to our present irons in the fire but of course as has been mentioned once one of these becomes a signed contract and the world takes note all of the competition be it in shipping or power production or even concrete for that matter will want to jump on the band waggon and quickly. Its all about profit, hence the present mess with commercial shipping and their Frankenstein fuel.

If the guys in Utah prove their concept the profit margins alone will draw just about every other tar sands producer to jump on Quadrise. Also if they can produce a useable product without having to ship to a refinery to incur yet more costs why not use oil directly from a well, emulsify it and burn it. It by all accounts would burn much cleaner and be so cheap to manufacture.

Like most of you I have a feeling that if everything we have learnt over the years about Quadrise is genuine, I have no reason to doubt it, once the touch paper is lit we could well all be sitting on that beach somewhere.

By the way we all have a few stocks like this in our portfolios. I have quite a bit invested in US Tech stocks and have been on a manic ride over the past months but one that I hold is a bit like Quadrise in that it has a unique product, and it has just signed its first commercial deal, many others that are, or could be massive are in the pipeline, I bought my first shares at $1.30 around six months ago. EXRO Technologies, based in Canada. The shares have just hit $4.00. They will also go to the moon.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/QFI.L/

Well here’s the link again Indigo and I have mostly always followed Yahoo for quick updates on my investments. Who creates these I have no idea, I would guess it is normally an average of forecasts from analysts that would follow the stock and in general they have always been pretty damned accurate.

But showing QFI to be a ten bagger from where we are is quite incredible, never seen that before. Doubt I will ever see it again. Wish the guys on Robin Hood could see this as without they would all pile in overnight.

Strange thing is I feel that it is a pretty could estimate. But then if it’s going to 30 and it gets there it means we are without doubt on a roll with contracts signed and who knows where the SP will end up.

For the moment I am assuming it is a mistake and should have been three pence.

Nice rise yesterday so maybe 4p by end of next week.

Interesting times and just read the news out of Utah. They are not hanging around. Remember Maggie’s remarks on the economy being kick an elastic band, same principals here, providing the band does not snap.

Anybody know how many people are employed at QFI....

Just been thinking and then gave up any hope of producing an accurate SP based on MSAR alone.

Far too many variables and with two potential source of feedstock, Utah and other tar sands worldwide and of course the residue from a daily input of approx 100,000,000 barrels of crude with say 10% usable waste in each barrel to produce MSAR from.

Those 100,000,000 barrels are all being used somewhere and MSAR could replace a great deal of this use and help in bringing down the damage being done to the planet considerably in the not too distant future.

So assuming we can only process 1% of those 100,000,000 million barrels and allowing for plus 30% water we would have 1.3 million barrels of MSAR daily and say we received $1.00 per barrel as a royalty. (This is a low low figure)

1 ,300,000 per day for 365 days gives us a profit of $474,400,000 and lets assume it takes $74.000,000 to run the company.

$400,000,000 = ~£300,000,000 x 10 gives a company value of 3,000,000,000 and a share price of £2.65

Plus the value of the BioMSAR lets say around total £3.00 per share and we are not even scratching the bottom of the barrel, sorry for the pun.

But should this become the success we all expect over the coming years and the output from the tar sands being almost infinite and with all of its savings to the environment, who knows where this could end up. The right product at the right time at the right price.

We just need that first signature......

Just worked out that the U.K. uses around 73,000,000 tonnes of fuel a year and my fear is we would be constrained by how much Glycerin there is available, did I see a figure of 5,000,000 million tonnes in the USA, must be a lot less for us. Be lucky of we can produce more than say twenty million tonnes worldwide. At how much to QFI in royalties, maybe 100,000,000 dollars, 74,000.000 U.K. pounds. Say 50,000,000 clear. Just BioMSAR could put a value on QFI of £500,000,000.

That’s around 47 pence a share just for BioMSAR.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/QFI.L/

Who knows, just saw this and smiled.

I yr target

You may have to wait three years but it will be worth it.