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I refer you to the comments I just made, you are quoting out of date figures you are assuming from an irrelevant period pre the main roll out. You know you are quoting old irrelevant figures selecting short time periods and are obviously doing this for mischievous reason.
Yes Billy, your comments are based on sales up to 31st March 2021 ie BEFORE the roll out really gathered any momentum. Don’t try and make them sound up to date by quoting 31st August. You are deliberately trying to make it sound like the margin is 0% when you know damn well it’s not.
Also you mentioned about the promotion discounts nibbling away at the margins. Do you not think that any company would have included those in their costings of how much margin they are going to make? So do you know that offering a 25% discount is reducing their stated margin for a fact?
So Billy, your 0% comment is based on figures from basically BEFORE the roll out really got started? And based on a very small time period from the last year BEFORE the roll out got started?? So how relevant is that right now?
And you wonder why people call you a troll!!
Billy, where is it stated or how do you come to the conclusion that margins are now 0%?
Fred, can't believe you've trademarked The Crew!
With all the green on here I have unfiltered to read and will keep unfiltered and try to engage once the obvious deramping ends but guys can you try and be at least a bit objective -
Billy, you pointed out about the 30% margins in your post at 9.18 but then have to add an irrelevant point about 6 months to March showed zero margin (in fact a trading loss) - Everyone knows that the previous years trading have no bearing on the future of this company but you can't help adding it to deramp! No other explanation. And to compound matters you mention it again by saying you are ignoring the lack of margin. Stating it isn't ignoring it! Again a classic deramp! These are why only a few people actually engage with you on here. Query the future not the past. The profits aren't going to be made in March 2021, but some in March 2022, more in 2023 and so on.
Vascular - you've rightly pointed out that another share has been smashed despite a decent rns and it's the way of the market at the moment. A share that you have invested "big" in. And good luck to you on that, it is very disheartening seeing a strong rns followed by an sp drop. Yet in the last 30 days 12 positive commments on OO, 10 positive comments on SEE BUT 100 negative comments on here, a share where you have very little invested according to your comments. 100 very long deramping comments, bringing up old data, looking at the now or the past when again surely it's the future when the money could be made here. Once the store count is in the 5000 to 10,000 range. once the UK's FSA finally get their act together and we can see Zoetic creams on store shelves. Pre March 2021 is not important.
Like I said try and be objective, same goes to everyone and hopefully this BB will become a place of info and analysis not ramping and especially reramping.
Moving with the theme of the conversation, they made fu ck all in 2001 I believe!
They look at the past because they know it's not so good when looking to the future with the distribution deals already signed, the markets to move into, etc. The "future" shows the potential of what the sp could be but it doesn't suit certain posters agendas as ever.
Makes me wonder if they chose last week lottery numbers for this weeks ticket? And before you spout off, yes I know about probability, etc.
I was chatting on email to one of the Zoetic guys and he mentioned about putting me down for a tee. Told him I was an XL and then couple of weeks later it arrived.
How was the Hackney event? How did the smokes go down with the crowd?
The shirts that are on all the Insta posts, etc.
Nice to see the board without all the recent BS going on.
With regards developments then all quiet waiting for the AGM I guess.
On the positive side of things (rampy Matt) then the T-shirts are awesome. Got one through the post the other day and look v smart.
kr007101, you should be in now, try checking again.
Bit of a hypothetical statement don’t you think? Question not aimed at the greens but anyone who doesn’t understand the responses Vas and Billy250 get on here. #trolls
And to think our resident troll Vas (aka Bradawl) posted this on another board - one where he might actually be invested in
What does the most damage to this BB is the constant saber rattling, scoring of points, and the endless tirade of negativity as one poster after another tries to put down another. What actually happens is anything positive gets drowned out in a sea of negativity.
This makes the BB seem unreadable, hostile, negative and actually poisons the whole purpose of the BB and probably puts a few new investors from posting.
If we could remind ourselves that we do not always have to endlessly respond to every comment, or perceived negative comment and turn it into several pages of retaliation that just goes on and on.
Today is a good example - the best day OO have had for sometime, surprise new contract , fantastic comments from CF, share price responded but again the good news and sentiment is at risk of being overshadowed by negativity and hostility which to be honest means that we loose, and others get what they want and distract from the good news and continue to debate the negative...ultimately, if we continue like this we are sabotaging our own BB.
OO are on a journey and many of us are on it with her, we paid for the ticket, we know there are risks, but we are hopeful - regardless of what risks others point out they may see in the future......listen to them, and consider what everyone says yes, but move on without giving the doomsayers to much space, opportunity and control here.
I guess it's the greens asking for the sales figures estimations as they've been doing this for a while and no one seems to be engaging with them which is good to see. Sadly due to their trolling behaviour this board has become a bit of a joke but hopefully if the rest of the actual investors converse with their negative and positive thoughts it can move on to be a decent read.
As for the Telegram group then we have seem so big discussions about the BOD's, the latest rns, lack of figures, etc so you're right Obstando, it is full of healthy debate without the blatant deramping from certain posters on here.
Green again. He’s not back already is he?
Got ya HD, missed that reference. Apologies for querying, although like I said I still think the BOD are held in good order but the very majority of shareholders for what they've done so far.
RE IPT - I do think the next news rns needs to be a really good one to halt this sp decline. I don't agree with the directors being underwater though? Yes they haven't handled the last rns well and that has pi55ed off a few shareholders but when you think about what they've accomplished over the last 9 months from pretty much nothing in sales to 2500 stores (and hopefully more). Giving targets to appease the masses and then failing to hit them hasn't helped but if they has said 2500 by July everyone would be delighted with hitting that target.
More green!!
He’s not a shareholder. Never has been a got picked for what he is immediately. Jog on sad little troll.
Must be getting very desperate now having to post every few mins. Lional, you must be the only one who actually reads what he writes. Think even Billy abandoned him now. Sad little bradawl! Run along home to mummy!!