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Hi dawski37 - I totally agree with your sentiments. Regards CM - PS I am showing 'Strong Buy'.
Hi stokey12 JW Will make an offer this Thursday being the final day combined with a new financial deal to be announced the same day.That is on the basis that this time they will meet the fcst dates. All to play for & then watch the SP rise to at least 20p. That is also on the basis that we now take on board institutional investors likely waiting in the wings. Unless JW & his team want to take a fall it has to be this week. Regards to all. PS IM positive result will take us beyond 20p moving towards 25p.
Hi Apothecary There are some of us on this board who are hoping for a finance deal next week but we also know when Arun was questioned as to whether it could go into next year & he said in so many words it could. With regards IM this we have been told that the deal is based on future expectations not if IM can go ahead. We are all under water based on the current SP welcome to the club.Regards to all.
Hi dawki37 - Agree with your comments hopefully it will be next week for all our sakes.
Hi ForrestGump - Your earlier post this morning concerning the question re the finance deal, asked earlier this year, which JW passed onto Arun was from me as I had indicated a week or so ago.The answer given was in line with what I felt might happen & still might with regards possible going into next year however there is still next week for an announcement on the finance deal. The long stop position for news will be the trading update for 2013 will be Friday 29th December.For me it is a 50/50 chance for this year however it cannot go much beyond January 2014.Fingers crossed for next week.
Hi dawski37 - Great post enjoyed your enthusiasm clearly a finance deal before the year end will set the scene perfectly well for 2024 & the icing on the cake will be a win re the IM JR appeal.I am not sure where the SP will be before the end of Qtr 4 2024 hopefully north of 25p.This next two weeks could finally, for us long term investors, be what we have invested for.
Edit: Finally got the right year 2024.
Read 2024 not 2014 - I seem to have a mental block with next year.
30 Dec 2022 07:00
'On the basis of these discussions, the proposed debt financing is now expected to close in Q1 2023. Financial close is contingent upon completion of due diligence and credit committee approvals of Astra and UKEF respectively. The Company will provide further updates in due course.'
1 Mar 2023 07:00
'This £200m refinancing is now expected to close in early Q2 2023, subject to credit committee approvals and finalisation of the credit agreement and other ancillary documentation.'
23 Jun 2023 14:00
'The Company has made significant progress on its group refinancing and it now envisages the transaction to close in early autumn of the current financial year. The Company has taken this opportunity to bring down the cost of capital substantially (into single digits) through this proposed transaction. Further details will be provided in due course.'
8 September 2023
'Advanced negotiations regarding a new £200 million credit facility along with the UK Export Finance (UKEF) guarantee, which is expected to close in Q4'23.'
Edit:
There are from this Friday 2 trading weeks to Christmas with a trading update likely 29th December in which to have an RNS but It may be now 2014.
Brilliant post dawski37 we live in hope. Regards CM
Hi Lottie123 - I attended the AGM last year & this year also attended the investors meeting earlier this year which we both attended.I concur with your numbers & I too was expecting this years target to be broken expecting that JW did not want to be caught short again with FCST turnover figures.In addition we are still waiting for the refinance RNS which I had expected in November but there is still 3 trading weeks left before Christmas & will be concerned if it moves into next year.I however still believe in H&W but it can be very frustrating watching on the sidelines.
With regards determining what is the basis of arriving at a companies turnover there are plenty of accounting standards that determine the basis of their calculation it is something that is not new.Booking turnover on the basis of receiving funds in advance of a contract starting does not count.The link below takes you to the notes to the accounts for Yr 31st December 2022.In summary there should be no circumstances in which it is not clear when to book income for work done based on a signed contract so I am surprised at todays RNS.
http://www.harland-wolff.com/annual-report-2022/#annual-report-2022/64/
John Wood speaking at 11.35 this morning at the Mello conference - funding announcement I wonder?
Calculation of offer by H&W:
Shares issued by Isles of Scilly Steamship Co Ltd per details filed at Companies House - 1,455,438 at 395 p per share X 80% = £4,599,184 these figures tie into the offer letter from H&W.
Link to Companies House - Accounts 31st March 2023 due by 31st December 2023.
http://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00165746/officers
Edit: Accounts Year to 31st March 2023 are detailed by drilling down from earlier looks posted also their interim accounts 6 months ended 30th September 2023.
Hi stokey12 - Detailed below is the link where I have got the detail posted earlier I hope that helps.What I will check is that the 'Group Accounts' I am referring to is the one H&W have offered to take over. Having read the letter per link below I believe I have the right company so my earlier comments remain the same.Regards CM.
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/market-news/statement-re-recent-speculation/16226648
Edit: By drilling down you will get to the letter that H&W issued to Isles of Scilly Steamship Co Ltd dated 17th November
http://www.islesofscilly-travel.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/HW-Approach-17-November-2023.pdf
Hi Si_Derman - The figures I quoted are from the interim accounts quoted on the Isles of Scilly Steamships Co Ltd website found by going through the links per last nights late RNS issued by the Isles of Scilly Steamship Co Ltd.
Furthermore:
See below new company formed in Singapore by Isles of Scilly Company
http://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/OE029122
Http://www.islesofscilly-travel.co.uk/shares-annual-reports/
Drill down to the following showing net assets at £23m
Isles of Scilly Steamship Company Limited:
http://www.islesofscilly-travel.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Interim-Accounts-2023-Combined_updated.pdf
Edit: The recent accounts would suggest a value in excess of the H&W Offer.
Thanks for the post Kaeren - Just looked up the link looks like the new person has many people congratulating her clearly has many contacts looks good for H&W.
Dawski37 - Great posts totally agree with your comments hopefully JW & his team will deliver the goods in the final month of 2013 on a finance deal which will be a great way of ending a much improved year.
Hi All,
Below is the link but I for one will not be going having looked at who the speakers are.
http://melloevents.com/mltickets/