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How soon is now . i wouldn't hold your breath if your I was you. This super cycle is clap trap. 1 by 1 you're gonna have to come around to my way of thinkin. There is no big recovery this year, just these low prices. Can't hold £15 , 4 times. The divi cut as left this in a low cycle that it shows no sign of breaking out of. At these low levels , any bump in the road will see a sell off. I saw this happen at tesco, Saintsbury's , Vodafone etc etc. None have recovered to anywhere near previous levels & has I asked b4 , name any share which has cut the dividend & has recovered its pretty cut share price. History doesn't make good reading. People always keep saying next update, next year, next 5 years, but I believe in today. God knows what happens next , but when I hold a share it don't usually be good.
Energy was the best performing sector in the U S last month . yet shell is languishing at well below £14. The big investors have ditched this & the market makers + markets markets too. , having lost confidence in oil. I recall Vodafone's holders always claiming it was under valued at £2 . take at a glance at it now. Markets seem to stalled atm. Be interesting to see what transpires next. I see the hate is back. Some people just can't walk away. Sad git. You have to laugh. And i do. Hahaha
good morning , hope your well. I think your apathy is typical of millions of small investors. Its a decent plan that many millions have followed. But has many find you just never know what happens going forward, as September 11th, banking crisis & covid showing things happen out the blue. Its a gamble. I just dont see this mega oil cycle happeniing. I predicted £17 75 as my price target. I think that looks a long long way off now. To many macro problems .
Looks like were selling off as i predicted. This year just isn't gonna happen. I recall saying Vodafone may never be £2 again when it was £1 90 ish, well they laughed. Not laughing now. So i say shell may never see £20 . its looking a million miles off & god knows what's around the corn3er. But this so called mega oil rally & recovery is based on hope & jack all else. I shall believe it when I see it. Could be a good buy at this level, but who knows what lurks around the bend. Long long long haul.
Hi. Hope your well. Where you you get this form & you do you then present it to to prevent the 15% tax on A shares & can you backdate a claim. I'm based in Britain BTW. The for the information.
Happy Mondays & happy unlockdown day to all. I have about 75% of my holding of shell in rdsa + pay 15% tax every dividend. So I get about 2p less a share + have done on every dividend I've received, so it hasn't been scrapped. Bought back the small amount of shares I sold on Friday again + will try to continue making tiny profits , has I don't see £16 anytime soon. Cv19 still causing uncertainty. It looks like 1 of those days where share price recovers slightly , only to fall even more when the USA markets open at 2 30 pm.
Same old same old story. When your at these low levels , your open to all setbacks & companies who have slashed dividends usually fair badly. To many macro problems for any significant recover this year. A good buy at these levels, but even £18 looks a million miles away ATM. Long haul IMO.
I sugguet this is the start of the sell off I alluded to. I sold a few yesterday. I will buy back in after Thursday, when it goes ex divi. I don't see this massive recovery this year. The cyber colonial attack shows that any thing can happen. Until debt is paid off these levels will persist.
Shell has raised the divi 3 times since cutting it by 66%. Most of the inrease has been lost with the falling dollar. I think its now 17,35¢ a share. Shell said that it intends to raise divi 4% each year. Once debt has been reduced to 65 billion then they will look again. Maybe share buybacks or dividend rise. But no chance of dividend back at old levels for a long haul. Talk is cheap. What one intends to do & what one does ate usually miles apart. Van baurden said 3 months b4 he slashed divi he intended to grow it, as did Vodafone c e o. Talk is cheap. You just never know how it will pan out. You just never what's around the corner, as covid proved. Maybe a bp & shell merger is 1 way out of the share more for both. But we won't be that lucky.
Since the dividend was cut 66? last year , shell has given 3 4% rises. Like ypu say with the fall of dollar it isnt a lot. Shell have said they will raise it by
Well the usa jobs report has shown people are happy to sit at home on furlough or benefits than return to work. With little hospitality venues open people ate cooped up at home & little reason to seek work. Online retail & telecommunications & the faangs will benefit, but Antone expecting this huge comeback in 2021 are burying their head up their hole. I'd love to be wrong but I doubt anymore dividend increase this year. 8 months left to prove me wrong. Alls I know is Vodafone, tesco, Saintsbury, BT & most others who slash the divi, don't recover their previous share prices. Look how well those above shares have done in cv19, but share price still £s away from b4. That's the reality. All this optimism is base on hope. The oil price has risen sharply, but has that anchor on CNBC showed b4 the oil shares do not follow suit, like years previously. That the new normal. This & bp are at these depressed levels for a good while yet , with £16 looking a long way off. Hope I find, as in life is soon extinguished. At these levels were open to any setback in the macro world. Only time can prove me wrong, but as of today , Vodafone , Saintsbury's, tesco & shell haven't proven me wrong in my predictions. Time will tell.
Hi, hope your well & safe. Yes, van the man was conspicuous by his no show. I watched CNBC & Blomberg on Thursday & saw no real presentation from shell. Very little coverage whatsoever, though I didn't start viewing till 7 oo am. In comparison , Looney at BP is quoted a lot on both stations. It seems they dontblike RDS to me. I hope I'm wrong but I sencse a market sell off looming, 7-10%. Most companies reported good results, so now I expect the markets to wake up & blame cv19 & sell off. And markets are supposed to be forward thinking.
Well it looks like the markets don't think highly of the results. Its all well saying they will pay 20/30% back to shareholders when debts down to 65 billion, but who knows what's around the corner. Talk is cheap. I'd take £15 50 by next update , but markets don't look interested with a 4% divi hike.
Well not bad results all things considered. Should rise a little when Dow opens & a few brokers may up their price targets for a little rise Friday. Debt paid down, so hopefully by November update RDS should be in a position to up the dividend. Time will tell.
Well most on here expect a rise tomorrow. Well let me rain on your parade. Ive topped up. So £11 here we come. The last time I topped up was £18 60, 2 months later it hit £12 then £9. Don't say you wasn't warned.
Yes, your right. People are now realising what I've been saying for months. Its gonna be a long haul as the steps back seem much bigger than the step forward.
Theyve already said they are gonna raise the dividend by 4% for this quarter. But the fall in the dollar negates most of it.share buy backs were beneficial in only that they would have reduced the dividend by more had they not had huge buybacks 2 years ago.
Yes, the bp bounce didnt get off the ground. The major sign of a poor share in market makerseyes. As vodafone , tesco, bt & Saintsbury have all shown since cutting their dividends, the shares fall heavier than most on the footsies bad days. Seemed good results for bp on the surface.
Yes, the bp bounce didnt get off the ground. The major sign of a poor share in market makerseyes. As vodafone , tesco, bt & Saintsbury have all shown since cutting their dividends, the shares fall heavier than most on the footsies bad days. Seemed good results for bp on the surface.
Now people are beginning to realize what the 60% divi means to the share price. Even with good results next Thursday , this year looks poor already for RDS. Cv19 still has nations in fear of big spikes & variants. The huge recovery of year end looks like nothing more than hope & naff all else. No doubt analysts, financial observers etc will start talking up 2022, but based on nothing but hope. Its beginning to look like RDS has seen its best days. Lets hope im wrong. I may buy a very small amount, be warned if i do because you know what happens if i top up. I dreamt it was £11 50 last week & im a sharp dreamer, you have been warned.