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Regulator - it is not my job to maximise the listing of any report I simply reported what the first page shows. I have taken the trouble to look at the lancet report you suggest - I would encourage others to do the same for some context - not being a doctor or even a scientist, the report does not really help me. What I get from it, probably because I already understood this part is that some masks are better than others and the ones most of us wear are pretty useless. I have no wish to continue with this pointless discussion, we are invested in a LFT producer (or thought we were) not a mask producer but if I were to speculate I would guess that HMG will start to undermine the masks we now use and begin to actively guide us towards the use of FFP2 masks now mandatory for many European flight - as we have always done, we will do as we are told but as the government critic you surely are please don’t expect the rest of us just to keep following like sheep, we are getting tired of it.

Most of us get the news from the radio, tv or the newspapers. Quite often the latest news contradicts information we have received from government sources and very often the press reports are proved right. I have no dog in this race, none of us like wearing masks but will do so for as long as we believe it helps but just as HMG are now backtracking on repeated comments that the US lock down started after a positive test but now admit they were wrong I no longer just take everything we hear from the government as being 100% accurate. Let’s see what develops.

I have just looked online, whilst the commentators on talk radio were reporting the latest news the web suggests that the cloth masks most of us wear are between 3 and 10% effective - dare I suggest, still not significant. I will report back if I come across the suggested latest report quoting only 0.6% effectiveness.

I got that from Talk Radio about 20 mins before I commented.

As we had speculated PCR follow up tests end today - they were never going to cope and as the tests picked up dead virus cells in your body for many weeks after infection they were never fit for purpose.

Reports now indicate that mask wearing only benefits society by 0.6% (not statistically important)then why do we persist in wearing them, why are our children forced to wear them in class? Certainly use when visiting the vulnerable or aged otherwise there seems little point to me.

LFT remain the most valuable method of detection, reduce quarantine to 5 days following a positive test, presumably testing every day and we have the clearest route out of emergency whilst we learn to live with Covid. For goodness sake give approvals to UK produced tests so that our own economy can benefit from the measures we impose on society and utilise a industry that we can trust and tax.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/28/how-uk-spent-800m-on-controversial-covid-tests-for-dominic-cummings-scheme

Question asked about why 2years in and after assurances to the contrary HMG still buying Chinese tests and not supporting British industry - Boris said we have largest faculty in Nottingham and we buy all their tests - he didn’t of course properly answer the question but it least the questions are now being asked.

I have just received a very encouraging reply from CEO of BIVDA to an email sent following a prompt from hasiba. Basically the reply confirms that they share our frustration and have been at pains to uncover the reasons for the decisions made and the woeful lack of transparency. They are in discussions with the Shadow Health team and Neale Harvey MP. The reply goes on to confirm that they are working to support companies attempting to achieve CDTA validation. This can only help.

You raised some good points Da-Doo-Ron-Ron - the more emails the more chance of action.

This is what I sent - I did not spend much time with it and feel sure others can improve it.

I am writing to raise my concern about what appears to be current government policy relating to the continued ordering of Chinese manufactured lateral flow tests in preference to UK manufactured tests. UK tests have already obtained CE approval. Having submitted all of the relevant paperwork many months ago no approvals have been received from the MHRA or CTDA and despite DHSC having initially supporting UK companies no progress seems to have been made to the significant detriment of UK companies paying UK taxes and supporting a UK workforce. It has been suggested in the press that UK regulatory authorities have imposed additional testing requirements for British companies but at the same time the government continued to contract mainly with the Chinese without additional testing requirements being required. Further it is suggested that no regard has been made for the environmental damage caused by importing tests from a country that we are currently boycotting due to their breaching many fundamental human rights, what checks have been undertaken to ensure that the tests we are buying were not produced by slave labour? Have the additional transport cost been fully considered?

The British government surely should and must give priority to our industries in UK to help our economy, create jobs and support our science and biopharmas in the UK who will all pay taxes within the UK.

Please raise my concerns adding to the current media interest which will surely grow once public awareness has been raised.

Thank you.

Ok hasiba, I have sent an amended version of your letter to each of the people you identified. Hopefully if enough of us actually do something other than sit and complain amongst ourselves perhaps something will be done. Thanks for the kick start. ATB.

Sounds like the male menopause to me.

Is it a secret? Please tell us more.

Personally with HUA I think £80m is way undervalued - this would be a simple paper transaction, as DAM are unlisted easy to organise and cheap. The sweetener to DAM would be board control and listed paper.

I have already accepted that neither of us know what will happen - I don’t think I am the one that is deluded.

Sorry computer but it seems to me that as one of your arguments is defeated you immediately switch to another so that you can continue to undermine the company.

Or they could agree a simple rental/lease agreement. If the figures did not work out to be in ODX’s favour they have no obligation to proceed. We do not know what we may be asked to produce, at what volume or at what margin until we do speculation is pointless.

After what we have been through I am willing to believe almost anything about HMG but I disagree and believe we will be able to use it commercially. Only time will tell which of us is right.

So you suggest that HMG, having no use for the equipment would prefer it to sit idle when they could easily achieve some form of income or payment for it if ODX could use it effectively to produce much needed tests for someone? Not a nuanced interpretation just common sense.

The reply does not mean that if the government order is not forthcoming - as appears to be the situation today - that HMG will not allow the machinery to be used. The contract simply pointed out that HMG had first call.