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Looking forward to it frankly!
Fla nice to see us hold from Friday thus far.

If anyone is interested you can configure a Lotus Evija (electric hypercar) in VANADIUM grey.
it's as if they knew...
That is all you need to know :)
GLA

Dunno FB I'm just an interested amateur:)
Lots of round sells this am and recent trolling had me thinking there was a small short attempt and I wondered if they then bailed with the 500k. I hold my shares and will do, not interested enough to try to count trades to out a theory together, beer in the freezer awaits and fajitas.
I have enjoyed today's debate, interesting to test and explore reasonings for the current situation, I guess most theory will be wrong but thats the fun eh
My gut says we are at the bottom however as those willing to part with shares have done so by now.
Gla

Nothing changes price like sentiment eh... :)

*buy back

Feels like stalemate, was that a short attempt today that failed with the 500k but back as not going anywhere. As we saw last week, those holding now are not selling no matter what so hopefully we are at bottom and only need sentiment to turn to move upwards, until next rinse repeat attempt.

New Vprice trade lot on metal bulletin. Slight down pressure in Europe but still around 24$

Understood but marketing is just as valuable as business strategy as you yourself said.
By your rationale, which I agree with completely, we have to wait and the businesses advising this, but that makes buying in now a tricky proposition 're timing
YES That is investing but again it is JSE investors who will see the biggest benefit as many current owners have seem their investment fall in
Value dramatically whilst waiting to appease future investors.
Many just want a few crumbs really... if we could stop the playing with the sp which has no reason to stop now until JSE if your theory is correct.

As said interesting debate spiralling the current situation. I reiterate I think the business is doing great things in general but it is clear current sp is not a concern so all must make their own decisions on that.
Gla

Agreed Sanchez but that does suggest a little that the business is being run for future SA benefit not it's current shareholders (owners), which also plays into the fears around SA investability in general as those in the know(or who need appeasment) will succeed and anyone who invested following the hype before the brakes went on is screwed if they need to liquidate. If they need to behave like this then who knows what will happen in the future and is the investment sound due to powers needing appeasement, what can/ will they do if snubbed. I hope to be holding in 5 years but just feel It is too cloak and dagger thus creates doubt and we are paying the price presently.
Gla

Discussing pros and cons without playground stuff
Thanks all

So another up to 12 months of this then...

wonder what the round sells (in quantity and value) today add up to...
going out now

Seller would not be an issue if there were buyers to balance... but as sentiment has been knocked there are not enough buyers and the company is valued at a fraction of what is should be. The company felt they could make a statement about the price in the flash short down to 19p last year yet since then we have Vanchem and 2019 results and are at 14p!
Nothing like price to change sentiment and vice versa.
I wonder if the company have made attempts to talk to the seller and facilitate transfer to either themselves in reserve for JSE launch or other interested parties. Or why not buy the shares dumped in market at bargain prices...? This has gone on for so long know I cannot see any other reality other than the board are happy with the situation for some reason.
IMO. I believe the story, will hold, but am very frustrated.

Seriously what could they do other than make statement indicating they feel the market is not valuing the business correctly.
Only director buying or big (...er than £millions profit!) news to blow out the shorting will make any difference, possibly, the news yesterday created no volume as people do not believe the share will go up as sentiment has been neutralised, we are perhaps in a stalemate situation now, so hopefully only way is up in time.
I still feel the price is not a concern to the directors to be honest until JSE listing of course...

I have my holding and would like to buy more but find myself holding as I do not trust where the price is going short term, and flame me if you like but I want maximum value for any purchase so will hold perhaps until we do see a significant movement as I am 50% underwater on my 2 year investment already.

The business is doing great things but the market refuses to recognise this, I do feel in part the way thing have been communicated is an element of this and I cannot believe the current price is satisfactory for the board yet.. schtum...!

JSE. ...IMHO

is this s short not going well or is someone buying back in with help?
or am I wrong?

bid up, ask down? oh er

there you go...fixed it.

Worst is behind us clearly, we made huge profit (mega profit if you include Vanchem rewrite) during the biggest V price decline ever! and acquired a new plant, and invested in various businesses to support our products Not bad eh!!!!!!!!

Sticking my neck out I agree with this and would like to see more detail on the BE side of things, as does the market I feel.
I suspect we will learn just before the JSE listing and not before.

don't forget the Vanchem asset will provide much more income during 2020 as it is 100% owned vs 74% Vametco. It will add to the bottom line and I suspect result for 2020 will be similar or better than 2019, just a hunch
They seem pretty positive on prices too, but to be frank we have heard this before, so hopefully this time...

funny really?
money on it being higher by end of week, certainly by end of month

https://twitter.com/TheGeorgeRoach/status/1275730817222938626?s=20