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Recently lol
The index has recently been going up day after day recently but not taking Vodafone with it. The question is, when the nice run comes to an end as it surely will, will they rotate into Vodafone or not. If the FTSE 100 went down a lot from here would it drag Vodafone even lower?
Bought in 4 times to bring the average down and each time it drops another 3 p
Time for the institutions to have the balls to say no to the bonus structure in this company and link to share price.
No point paying a 3.8 dividend to then lose this and more as debt rises and confidence goes.
If the board were football managers they would have gone long ago
Vodafone flat as a pancake all day. Can't see how it's not more volatile including up and down price movement.
Vod lastest news , looks a better option , sitting on beach
https://www.vodafone.com/news?tag=Data
Looking at these myself today good move i reckon as the diys will come back next year in my opinion
Fleccy, yes that's fair. Thirty things dragging the share price down and twenty nine things pulling the share price up. The next week should tell us if the market thinks twenty nine things dragging the share price down and thirty things pulling the share price up. Todays RNS says the cost of servicing debt is going down so good news especially as the dividend is being maintained. Just a waiting game...with feb/june dividend to compensate for the holding cost of invested capital. Anyways, feb div will clear my xmas credit card.
Happy Xmas all
"the hope is that this will get back to the high 130s not expecting this until sometime in the next year and of course there is a chance it will turn out to be a mistake only time will tell"
UK stocks have been battered for years, but the tide will turn at some point. Recently, I've noticed the CNBC presenters and guests discussing the value in UK stocks, so something will likely give in the next 12 months, no situation lasts forever, In the meantime, I'll keep topping up and waiting.
"It’s not just global investors who are shunning the UK
Ever since Britain voted to leave the European Union in 2016, overseas investors and fund managers have had a downer on the UK.
It’s understandable. Politics is complicated enough for insiders. Outsiders don’t stand a chance. Most of the time that doesn’t really matter. Domestic politics doesn’t make big enough waves to force global investors to pay attention. Companies carry on regardless. "
https://moneyweek.com/investments/stockmarkets/uk-stockmarkets/602060/investors-are-shunning-uk-stocks-but-they-might
"The UK stock market is cheap and looks as interesting as in 2008"
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/investingshow/article-11426727/UK-shares-cheap-2008-says-Temple-Bar-manager-Investing-Show.html
Soton, you are right this is a difficult one, although i have a high average here and made a top up last week, it is still one of the smallest shares in my portfolio, because over the last few years i have kept adding to my other shares on the lows
the hope is that this will get back to the high 130s not expecting this until sometime in the next year and of course there is a chance it will turn out to be a mistake only time will tell
best of luck
Decided to bail when I noticed Ezj at 373p Took a small loss but I am sure Ezj will make that up soon. I guess I will be back but at the moment this looking pretty stagnant.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing if i had sold all my vod shares during Trusses debacle and invested in LGEN or AV i reckon i would have made back all my losses....Said it before this stock isn't for the faint hearted......Think i'm one of the lucky ones my average is 127p (ouch) have chatted to someone on here there average was 170+.....
Reckon you sold BP at a good price. Vodafone i have no idea really where it will go. Been looking around for some shares to buy for over a month but don't see anything i fancy at the moment.
Wish i had your confidence in buying and selling...I tend to buy and hold although saying that sold a lump of BP a few weeks back happy with what i sold at even though they have gone up since another 10p or so...looking to off load some of these as well when the price goes back up was looking for 140 think i'll be waiting a while for that...
The pain continues but will it be 89p on Friday?
Trading in and out of FTSE 350 shares if anyone else wants to know. Never have done shorting.
GutterSnipe. Sorry mate, What do you mean, " I'm 6 x my original stake in 24 years" Unless you explain how you are 6 x your original stake, you make no sense. Never mind, I get the impression I might be wasting my time with you, so I will just wish you good luck, & good bye.
meshtrader. You say" the spectrum auction process is a scam,why does it only apply to telco's, why not the drug industry". I agree that spectrum charges are crazy, but to use drug companies as a comparison is way off the mark surely?. I think many sick people who rely on drugs would find an auction similar to telco's on drugs outrageous.
Daniel - I'm 6 × my original stake over 24 years which is pretty good. Your trust in these people is rather naive. Have you forgotten the banking crisis. Every bank controlled by useless people. You will get caught trusting management. Maybe one day even Vodafone could go to zero if you wait long enough....
Guttersnipe. If I had such a low opinion of company management, as you clearly have, I would keep well away from the stock market all together. I would also suggest you use your jogging pants for what they are designed for, Jogging, then you might, given time, be able to get back into your jeans. Cheers. ... Danny boy.
Narcus. I take your point, but obviously in the long run you want the share price to rise, preferable after the option start date. If I were going to join a share option scheme, I wouldn't want the share price to fall before the option date, especially if I already owned shares, or previous share options, unless I was guaranteed the price would go back up again afterwards. Whatever the option price is, 20% discount is good deal. Of course if you are suggesting the sp can be falsely held down before the option price is set, & allowed go up after, then that might make sense, but I don't think that is possible. Have a good week.
Indeed Fleccy!
In case of interest, highly recommend the following excellent books:
The Spider Network - about Libor.
Blood oil - Saudis influence
Empire of Pain - The dirty tricks of the industry and the massive political corruption and decay. A fantastic book.
Bad blood - The Silicon valley greed, political corruption and the none existing regulation
Although hoping to buy some shares, but which ones is the big question, the only cheap share seems to be Vodafone. But is it?....
I agree with your general sentiment Mesh. As far as the Spectrum auctions are concerned, there's no doubt Governments use them as a cash cow, but the Telecom companies have no choice but to go along, since spectrum is a finite resource and needs to be managed across different applications.
I believe manipulation occurs across the drug industry too, was the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine trashed because it was offered at cost? And the market players wanted to make big profits from the more expensive MRNA vaccines? Since it would be the taxpayers, in the richer countries, who'd pay the price for the more expensive vaccines; It's funny that the AstraZeneca vaccine has been used throughout the third World without issue.
https://theconversation.com/what-happened-to-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-now-rare-in-rich-countries-its-still-saving-lives-around-the-world-181791
There have been issues with the MRNA vaccines too, but they seem to have received less mainstream coverage.
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/myocarditis-warnings-strengthened-after-death-link
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/death-covid-pfizer-vaccine-mother-b2072988.html
The oil and Gas industry is manipulated, I mean how many industries allow a Cartel like OPEC? But irrespective of OPEC, market players hoard Oil in tankers and play other games with the prices. The US Government has fought back Oil price increases by releasing reserves. The market appears to have the ability to manipulate any commodity, whatever it is, like Nickel back in March:
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/29/lme-had-regulatory-obligation-to-be-able-to-cancel-nickel-trades-in-march-filings-say.html
We've all heard about Libor and other scandals. Crypto currency is just smoke and mirrors, in my opinion, with no intrinsic value and no real-World uses, except for the criminals. In truth, the whole market is rigged from top to bottom.
Mostly I hang around here for the laughs oh Danny boy
Daniel - i have definitely not bought any Vodafone shares. I wanted to for the tasty dividend but did not have the courage. I am not short either. My joggers have replaced my jeans which no longer do up round the middle.
I'm still tempted by Vodafone but am worried it might be a value trap so will probably steer clear.