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Some large buys went through around 16:30. Director buys maybe or Woodford again?
once in a while, us gloomsters are right, eh? (tho', ok,putin not the cause this time, lol) atb.
Utilitywise are very present in the market constantly calling and touting for new business. Their consultants also create a huge number of leads which are executed either in house or via key partners for lead fees. I have had 2 seperate contacts randomly mentioning Utilitywise to me and how active they are. Even if the accounting needs tempering this is a buiness which is proactive/disruptive and great value at this level. Woodford is no fool.
Your right it doesnt help but that must have been the drop couple days ago. I think that mustve got sorted and its back to business considering the additional staff taken on
Maybe articles like this are not helping, albeit criticism from a rival. http://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/news/utilitywises-aggressive-accounting#.VdYv3znZWrB I am 25% down here atm and thats after averaging down a little on last drop to 180.
I think the entire market is down and not specific to UTW?
three lives gone?
big trades here are sells no director buying reported which is not a good sign no real explanation as to why they cant concentrate on growing profit. Likely to languish until some positive news as confidence lost imho
because they (mms/traders) can?
No idea... still expecting this one to fly back up soon. However, this is a great opportunity for anyone to get involved / top up at a very cheap price...
Any reason?
perhaps the cat is sickly, but not yet terminal? two lives gone, seven left.
it sure seems tempting, but i am trying to be reasonably disciplined about stops these days. what i've discovered in the past is that i set stop levels and use them well, but then have a tendency to buy back in too quickly. so with utw, i bought back a few shares this afternoon that i had got stopped out on higher, but overall have left myself with a reduced stake compared to pre-results (2/3 now). i am hoping the drop on day one was largely about that underperformance issue, but then the drop on day two more about aggressive trading to target stops /bruised holders. seems consistent with the apparent buy back at the close, tho' i may misjudge as am not an active day trader myself.
We all know this is near all time lows; shorts (as shown on IG index have pretty push closed). The share is due for a massive re-rating. The only broker in the last two days giving a guidance price : "peter pan mure golding" slashed it's price dramatically; that price has been hit and is now due for rebound :) :) :)
So Panmure are basically saying it's fair value as it stands now. Anyone got a reasoned explanation why their target is half what Liberum came up with yesterday? What do they see that no one else seems to? Strange goings on here.
Panic sellers today based on a dodgy note from the boys at Panmure. You can only ever make real money from extremes. These levels represent excellent medium term value.
Blimey GS, you have more toes than a Chernobyl frog, I've now lost track of your ins and outs. I reckon you have a big toes worth and about 10k in your dog's sipp at the last count. No matter, that was a very tempting price today as I can't see how the news justifies such a drop. But the little voice in my head says something can't be right, if it's not shorters, it's a massive loss of confidence by someone, but who? Apparently not Woodford, so can it just be pi's or HNWI's driving it down? Not sure what to think about Woodfords little buy, an attempt at slide arrestment more than a genuine vote of confidence? Gonna hold out a bit longer and see what the FCA reports in a few days, might kick myself but if shorts don't materialise and confidence returns, a buy in around 200 given what it was will still be nice
Thanks - If only it was always like that. Shame it did not carry on falling (not really) or I would have got more back in. There are times when buying back gradually is a pain. And then, there a times when..... it saves your bacon. Too soon to tell, but I think the principal reason for the drop was underperforming against expectations yet again. They clearly need a better FD. Woodford will have had something to say on the subject I would think. GLA GS
well played george! (hopefully, assuming sp doesn't halve tomorrow)
I dontrecall disputing the dumpiing it was the 'more alarming' part i mentioned. Thanks for the insight tho.
3,431 915 volume according to this site more buys than sells, but the real figure for volume was 3,841 915. with 1.6+million traded in the last hour and half, this site for stats. is poo and always as been. So if you get the true charts up you will see they were definitely dumping this am. and buying this pm. lets hope there is buying am. pm. tomoz. Will be cutting my holding either way when and if this gets above the 200p handle. GLA.
Looks like you got your timing about right - the submarine has started pumping out water and is rising from the sea bed! GLA
thanks. for sure, BK has a very different history /stance on actually paying their taxes compared to google, which can help with some regulators.
The thing about BK is that they try not to tangle with regulators and like any well managed investment business they have some balance in their portfolio (although Warren likes a big bet now and again...). The thing about Google is it seems to me they are on a collision course with regulators and looking at the Alphabet "portfolio" if Google is NOT dismantled approximately 99% of its value will be in Google. So it still looks like too many eggs in one basket to me. But that is not to say it will not do very well in sp terms. There is nothing to touch Google right now and the barriers to entry are colossal. It is just that it could lose value very fast at the stroke of a pen in Brussels or Washington (or Beijing). GS